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legacyb4 said:
That's looking like beyond regular wear and tear; are you mixing your iPod with other items in your pocket?
Well of course I carry nails, siberian tiger teeth, sand paper, and exposed razor blades.

What, in your opinion, constitutes "regular wear and tear"?
 
ksz- Honestly, how about taking a photo of the iPod WITHOUT the glaring light source? The lighting you use only accentuates the scratches and makes them look worse then they are. Yes, putting the iPod in your pocket will lead to some surface scratches. So? Buy a sleeve for it, don't put it in your pocket.

I mean this ridiculous claim is being made by those who put their iPod in a less then ideal situation and expect the iPod to remain in pristine condition!?!?

If you want it to be pristine, then treat it as such.

( we have the 4G photo ipod and a iPod nano and are more then happy with each)
 
mlrproducts said:
Thats funny, my nano is fine. And what? They want a share of the profits? Hell i bet the RIAA is backing these suckers.

This won't go anywhere. Why can't people just go out and find a job and earn a living. These people should be shot for frivolous lawsuits (and no, not put in jail, that is a waste of money, they should just be shot).


this is what i was thinking from my friends that work at apple tell me the reason the screens scrath is cause the dumb A$$ people that clean then or dont even clean then dont take care of there ipod the others may have that .01% of 1% of the ipods sold that are having issues it a f-ing ipod people if you are having issue take it to your apple store and have them fix it i can tell you from working in customer service at many diffrent points in my life that if you yell enough the management will shut you up and give you what you want this is just a alot of lazy people looking to never have to work again get off your but and do some thing productive like sue microsoft for allowing you to get a virus on your computer and making back doors so they can get in your computer but no one is doing that people see the Ipod as a "pop icon" and as such they want to do what they can to discredit apple and the ipod. i wish the people good luck with this and when they loose i will be laughing my but off.

Corey

ksz said:
Some photos of my 4GB nano.


looks to me like you carry keys coins let me ask you did you even buy a case for your nano no proablly cause you were to cheep. so thing about this next time cheep means scrathes take care of a item you spent a few hundred on !
 
You know I looked at my son's 3G iPod and its as scratched as the pictures of the Nano above. Then I looked at my 4G iPod, and noticed that while its not as bad it too has scratches on it. This morning while watching video on my 5G iPod I noticed a lot of scratches....and its only 3 days old.

Granted, I screwed up, I wiped it with a paper towel without thinking when I got it. You see there was a wad of glue or something stuck to the wheel when I took off the packaging and in trying to remove it, I used the closest thing at hand ... a paper towel. I finally got whatever was stuck off, but I knew the damage was done. :-(

OK, so it scratches easily with a paper towel, nothing earth shattering (other than other plastic devices I have hold up better), but the thing that really got me was how noticeable it was. This new iPod is black, and I think the color has a major impact on the scratches. The same scratches on a while iPod would be unnoticeable. Personally, I think the issue now, is that people are buying black iPods and they show the scratches more than the white ones
 
ksz said:
Well of course I carry nails, siberian tiger teeth, sand paper, and exposed razor blades.
Well, that's your problem right there.

Any safety concerns Apple should use some sort of tempered or flexible glass material? This whole polycarbonate substance doesn't seem to hold up well. What material did they use to protect the screens on the mini?
 
rteichman said:
You know I looked at my son's 3G iPod and its as scratched as the pictures of the Nano above. Then I looked at my 4G iPod, and noticed that while its not as bad it too has scratches on it. This morning while watching video on my 5G iPod I noticed a lot of scratches....and its only 3 days old.

Granted, I screwed up, I wiped it with a paper towel without thinking when I got it. You see there was a wad of glue or something stuck to the wheel when I took off the packaging and in trying to remove it, I used the closest thing at hand ... a paper towel. I finally got whatever was stuck off, but I knew the damage was done. :-(

OK, so it scratches easily with a paper towel, nothing earth shattering (other than other plastic devices I have hold up better), but the thing that really got me was how noticeable it was. This new iPod is black, and I think the color has a major impact on the scratches. The same scratches on a while iPod would be unnoticeable. Personally, I think the issue now, is that people are buying black iPods and they show the scratches more than the white ones
I can't believe it! A reasonable person here.
 
this is completely idiotic. everyone knows that ipods scratch, therefore, be careful with them! everybody knows that batteries die eventually, so maximise the life cycle by charging and discharging fully as much as you can, as with ANY OTHER RECHARGABLE product.

these people are either wanting part of apple's cashpile, or are angry at their success.

you'd never see people bringing a class action lawsuit against microsoft because windows crashes, would you? people would just tell you you were fighting a lost cause, because all windows boxes crash, and it's something you should realise when you buy it. not trying to start a mac vs pc thread (again) but just trying to make a point.
 
ksz said:
Some photos of my 4GB nano.

Umm... seriously now, WHAT DID YOU DO TO IT?!?!? That's beyond normal usage. Do you keep in a pocket with your keys, some razor blades, and small animals that like to chew on plastic?
 
I just looked at ALL the nanos (And 5G iPods) at my local Apple Store and one other store. The floor models that get manhandled and dropped face down on the counter all day every day.

I saw no significant scratches on any of them. (Looked at up close in the right light, micro damage was visible of course. Nothing remotely affecting screen visibility.)
 
nagromme said:
I just looked at ALL the nanos (And 5G iPods) at my local Apple Store and one other store. The floor models that get manhandled and dropped face down on the counter all day every day.

I saw no significant scratches on any of them. (Looked at up close in the right light, micro damage was visible of course. Nothing remotely affecting screen visibility.)
Sigh. I reply to that the same way I did earlier in this thread and the same way other posters have as well-- if you have never worked sales retail this is what happens w/ floor displays:

Items get broken/scratched up/ whatever-- they get marked as 'defected,' the manager signs it off, and it disappears and a new one in its spot instead.

You can not necessarily get an honest gauge for a product based solely on the floor models.
 
Hmm, taking care not to put it face down on a desk, not wiping with paper towels or other abrasive materials, not putting it into a tight jeans pocket with or without items as there is plenty of crap in there that will be abrasive to the surface of any plastic item, and not tossing it carelessly into a bag/purse/backpack, or otherwise things you would do when handling a 1.5 ounce, $300 dollar item.

My Tag cost me a cool grand; do I do the things I list above if not more? Of course I do and that's why it's pretty much in mint condition despite having had it for 7 years...

Did I miss anything?

ksz said:
Well of course I carry nails, siberian tiger teeth, sand paper, and exposed razor blades.

What, in your opinion, constitutes "regular wear and tear"?
 
Geez

People are such idiots. Who keeps their 250 dollar nano without a decent case anyhow? My nano is completely protected, with a decal girl crystal shield, and a ten dollar silicone case from ebay.
Decalgirl Crystal Shield: 3.99 +shipping. BTW, it's real ugly because the clear shield shows the adhesive underneath. I suggest the colored ones + screen armor.
Silicone case: 10 bucks.
Keeping my nano's surface brand spanking new: priceless.
If you expect to keep something nice, you gotta spend some money. Of course, you can't expect a shiny black surface NOT to have a scratch right? Just get a damn cover. Then there are all these people saying, "OMG, I can't believe they expect me to get a damn cover???!!" Haha....cracks me up. What do people expect of their electronics anyway....to last a lifetime? Then get one of those shady third-party accidental damage warranties.
 
ksz said:
Some photos of my 4GB nano.

So you carried in your pocket? The device says clean with a lint free cloth. You thought a lint filled pocket of DENIM would be a good idea. Someone else mentioned they put theirs in their BACK POCKET! And, BTW, the screen was still readable. Why don't you turn on your screen in the photos?

I can't believe someone put it in their back pocket. That's what we sit on in this country. Sitting on things tends to break them. Or at the very least, scratch them with the very durable denim surface.
 
Jon the Heretic said:
No seriously; I'd get an eye exam if I were you. You could be a danger to those on the road around you. I DO have corrected vision and I have no problem seeing those hundreds of scratches on my black nano or those at the local Apple store.

Why do I need an eye exam? I didn't say you or I couldn't see the scratches. You were responding to somebody elses post in what seemed to be an unreasonable manner so I commented.

Until you ACTUALLY see his iPod "in the flesh" (and presumably count the hundreds of scratches) calling him blind is out of order.
 
As I mentioned previously, my 4G iPod is generously being replaced by Apple for a 5G model which is on its way. After reading the warnings here about the nano and 5G's increased sensitivity I have decided to take extra measures. I just ordered a pair of white lint free nylon gloves to use when handling my new iPod.

I also bought a beautiful, handcrafted mahogany curio, in which I will display the iPod, never taken from its original packaging of course.

Free iPod: $0
Gloves: $20
Mahogany Curio: $5,000
Security System Surrounding Curio: $30/month
Knowing My iPod Will Never Get a Single Scratch: Priceless
 
bretm said:
So you carried in your pocket? The device says clean with a lint free cloth. You thought a lint filled pocket of DENIM would be a good idea. Someone else mentioned they put theirs in their BACK POCKET! And, BTW, the screen was still readable. Why don't you turn on your screen in the photos?

I can't believe someone put it in their back pocket. That's what we sit on in this country. Sitting on things tends to break them. Or at the very least, scratch them with the very durable denim surface.
I carry my iPod Mini in my back pocket. But like a logical person I take it out before I sit down. My mini has been covered since the day I got it to avoid scratches. But I had fair warning that it would scratch a lot since the first one they shipped to me was covered in scratches out of the box (luckily they gave me a new one since I hadn't even used it yet and it was covered).

About the nano. My roommate bought one last week, and on the first day he had it he decided to wipe the finger prints off after it was done charging. Anyways, first he blows the dust off with an air can, and then uses a lint-free extremely soft cloth to clean it up. Well after just that the thing is not extremely bad, but has some very noticeably scratches all over it. So he returned it, bought a new one and ordered some of those clear pda covers to put on the front and back so that he wouldn't scratch it when sliding it into the protective case he bought. On the other hand his k750i only has an exim cover on the screen and no other cover on the plastic of the phone and it doesn't have a single visible scratch on it. Neither does the outer screen of my razr (I wouldn't know about the inner screen as it has been covered with an exim cover since day one).
 
sorry to ask this but we don't have this problem...i live in the uk where this sort of money-grabbing behaviour is confined to people who pop out five kids and expect the rest of the country to pay for their up-bringing.

if this goon looses would he have to pay all the legal fees of both sides?
 
Jesus said:
i Think what we have here is a quality control problem. I mean, we have two groups here: those with nanos that are bady scratched ; And those with nanos that have not scratched badly or at all.

Yes, we have two set of people. We have people who take care of their of their stuff and expect a little bit of wear and tear. And people who beat the hell out of their stuff thinking it's going to stay new. These two groups can be referred to as educated and idiots respectively.
It's not a quality control issue. It's a simple matter of people using thier device in different ways and having different expectations.
So, the big question is. Do those who fall into the idiot group also own cars with small dings in them or did they sue the dealer for a new one because it gets dings easily. My 1997 saturn doesn't have a single dent in it, if they can make a car that doesn't ding, then why can't everyone else? My god, if you don't own a Saturn, call your LAWYER...NOW!!! You too can be rich!!

I would still like to see a picture of an ipod screen that is unreadble due to scratches. Or better yet, the one that claims that a single scratch rendered it unreadable.
 
Kid Red said:
ksz- Honestly, how about taking a photo of the iPod WITHOUT the glaring light source? The lighting you use only accentuates the scratches and makes them look worse then they are. Yes, putting the iPod in your pocket will lead to some surface scratches. So? Buy a sleeve for it, don't put it in your pocket.

I mean this ridiculous claim is being made by those who put their iPod in a less then ideal situation and expect the iPod to remain in pristine condition!?!?

If you want it to be pristine, then treat it as such.

( we have the 4G photo ipod and a iPod nano and are more then happy with each)

Exactly as I would have said it. If you care about your iPod nano or any iPod in general, put the damn thing in a case. (in less nicer words then Kid Red said it) I think anything would look scratched up if it has a glossy face to it, and it constantly being moved around with friction in your jeans from walking around...this isn't overexagerated either...most people's pants eventually look more worn when you have stuff moving against them in certain spots like front pockets all day. Maybe Apple should just include a .50 cent case like they do with the new iPod and that would shut up the whinny customers. I mean who's fault is it if you don't use a case for it...no, not Apple...yours. It's the same material as all the other iPod's, and if you don't care about it not to put it in a case to keep it pristine, then tough luck.
 
weird

Also, i noticed something about the picture. How come the click wheel is grey? The click wheel on nanos are black. There must be some altering of the color saturation.
 
firebox said:
i live in the uk where this sort of money-grabbing behaviour is confined to people who pop out five kids and expect the rest of the country to pay for their up-bringing.

Yeah but they'll be "shopping" (as in reversing a van into Dixon's!) for nanos for the sprogs soon!

Not paying for them won't stop em moaning! :rolleyes:
 
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