iPod nano DFU mode

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  1. Timeraner macrumors member

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    I'm now *also* the first person to get the iPod nano w/ touch in DFU mode! Just like the one found on the iPhone/iPod touch/iPad, You need to hold the buttons in a certain combination 'which I do not remember exactly, I was trying to replicate the Diagnosis screen I *also* found' then the screen on the nano stayed blank. The computer (Windows XP) made the little 'ding' for a USB device, with "Apple DFU Mode" or whatev popping up. iTunes made a pop-up and said the recovery software needed to be downloaded... not firmware?? Well it did that, then the nano froze on the dark yellow-ish tint screen after flashing white 'just like on iOS devices', then the usual old iPod "do not disconnect" screen appeared. iTunes then told me I needed to restore the firmware, which is downloading (102.1 MB) as I type this.
     
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    If the firmware in the 6G is like the 2G Nano - 5G, it will be a few years before it is hacked in any way.
     
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    It's nothing like it. The other iOS devices where originally jailbroken through a DFU exploit. This is the first device with DFU mode and to not have iOS, BUT retain a diagnosis menu from the previous generations. It's also the first device to actually inform you that a recovery 'program' must be downloaded before you can restore the firmware.

    On a side note, the capacity of my 16 GB read on iTunes as N/A when in DFU. Normally it would be 14.88 GB.
     
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    It actually is a lot like older iPod firmwares. It just has iOS icons and pictures. Other iOS iDevices (iPhone 2G and iPod Touch 1G) where originally jailbroken through a user land exploit (like Spirit). The DFU exploits didn't appear until 1.1.4. This is also NOT the first iPod to have a DFU mode, a diagnostics menu, and not run a version of iOS. Read up on it here http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/09/03/dfu-mode-on-2nd-gen-nanos/ . Other iOS iDevices also tell the users to download the latest firmware, nothing to new there. The side note is because iTunes only knows it's an iPod Nano 6G. It isn't being told anything new. This happens on other iOS iDevices in DFU mode.
     
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    NO.

    It goes into DFU mode with nothing on the screen, the same way it does on iDevices. All the previous iPods have e.g. 'do not disconnect' screen. AND, iTunes did NOT tell me to download the latest firmware. It said that it needs to install a recovery program first and downloaded a file ~"iPod nano recovery kit", less than 5 MB. After that, the "do not disconnect" appeared as-in older generations, and iTunes downloaded the 150 MB firmware.
     
  7. Intell macrumors P6

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    Yeeeesssss, on older iPods the image on the screen is part of the DFU code. The image is small enough that allows it to be stored in the DFU ROM. On iOS based iDevices the screen resolution is too large to be able to store an image in the DFU ROM. And regardless of what's on the screen, it's still the same DFU mode on the inside.
     
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    So, therfore, with said logic, the new iPod nano with touch - too small for video playback - would have a DFU image stored on DFU ROM. Why, then, would it not?

    I had a 16 GB iPod touch, and that was always recognized (even in DFU).
     
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    Code is allowed to changed isn't it? Maybe the extra space was taken up by a simple checking tool. How would I know? I didn't make the 6G DFU ROM. The 6G is capable of video playback, but Apple doesn't want it. Even the iPod 4G (color only) and iPod Nano 1G where capable of video playback with a 3rd party firmware installed.

    Is there a point to the iPod Touch thing?
     
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    You said iTunes doesn't recognize drive size in DFU mode; it does with the touch, but not nano. I also had an iPod nano 1st Gen, which I sold as a contribution for my new one. I had Rockbox on it for the ~year+ I owned it. Of course I know it's video capable.
     
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    The iPhone 3Gs, iPod Touch 3G, iPad, iPhone 4, and iPod Touch 4G all show up as N/A for size in iTunes when in DFU mode. My 1G iPod Touch and 2G iPod Touch show up with the size sometimes, but mostly N/A. So the N/A for size isn't new.
     
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    I see.

    ..*thread too far off topic due to my misunderstanding of techno*
    Let's talk about jailbreaking.
     
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    I believe the "iPod nano recovery kit" is new; that could definatly benifit jailbreakers, no?
     
  14. Intell macrumors P6

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    It isn't based on iOS thus the iPhone Dev Team and others like them won't be trying to hack it in anyway. It's more so based on iPod Nano 5G firmware, which has not been hacked in anyway. Jailbreaking or hacking the iPod Nano 6G is unlikely to happen.



    The 2G Shuffle has something like that. As for helping to hack into the 6G, unknown, maybe not.
     
  15. Timeraner thread starter macrumors member

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    However, the touch screen & aclrmtr could make it more attractive than previous generations. or it could not..
    Regardless, seeing how Apple is "iOS-ing" all of their devices, the next major iPod launch will (hopefully) discontinue the classic (finally; sold mine for the new nano) and be the "uniting of iOS devices", adding the nano.

    The point of this thread is lost.
     
  16. Intell macrumors P6

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    You must remember the 5G Nano also had an accelerometer. Stop making the Classic? That's something Apple would never do. It's there for those few people who want all their music with them and not in the cloud.

    Also the iPod Nano 6G does NOT run iOS in anyway besides the icons.

    This thread is like it's creator then.
     
  17. Timeraner thread starter macrumors member

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    lol, but that is exactly where Apple is heading. They bought Lala last year, which is music streaming.
     
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    I've never seen an 17 post thread with only 2 people posting.

    Anyway, I'll have to say that the iPod classic will someday die. Most pundits thought it was going to be axed this year and were surprised that Apple kept it around.
     
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    Yeah. I hope streaming comes around soon. Google is supposedly creating the equivilent for Android already.
     

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