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iPod Revamp?
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your point? that's, what, an 8% drop in the price? shoot, that's a joke. i am talking about a 30% price cut. that's pretty significant.
Re: iPod Revamp?
Why didn't they just throw in Airport Extreme and make the price $9.95? I mean if you 're going to make it unbelievable go all the way.
As far as a DLD and with fear of derailing this thread I'll just say that if they release an affordable PDA (not a $700 ipod that's also a pda) I'll buy it before summer. Guaranteed.
Empasis Added
Why didn't they just throw in Airport Extreme and make the price $9.95? I mean if you 're going to make it unbelievable go all the way.
As far as a DLD and with fear of derailing this thread I'll just say that if they release an affordable PDA (not a $700 ipod that's also a pda) I'll buy it before summer. Guaranteed.
Re: Whats wrong with Firewire 800?
The only drives that can burst above FW400 (and bursts don't really require an extra bandwidth move in and of themselves, sustained does) are full-sized drives that aren't standard. the drives in the iPod were manufactured unlike other drives to be very small and low power-- so the chances of an iPod HD needing the bandwidth of FW800 (or even close) in the next couple of years are slim to none--
plus, it's rather pointless, since you can already move data around on them very, very quickly. Most of the world's MP3 players are based on USB (some have gone USB2 tho) and don't get anywhere near iPod speeds-- but they're not HD based anyway, so they can't carry enough data to require a fast connection.
FW400 in the iPod is how it will be for quote a while-- i discredit rumors that speculate on this automatically anymore. Just some schmuck tossing in extra features to make a rumor sound more attractive--
pnw
The only drives that can burst above FW400 (and bursts don't really require an extra bandwidth move in and of themselves, sustained does) are full-sized drives that aren't standard. the drives in the iPod were manufactured unlike other drives to be very small and low power-- so the chances of an iPod HD needing the bandwidth of FW800 (or even close) in the next couple of years are slim to none--
plus, it's rather pointless, since you can already move data around on them very, very quickly. Most of the world's MP3 players are based on USB (some have gone USB2 tho) and don't get anywhere near iPod speeds-- but they're not HD based anyway, so they can't carry enough data to require a fast connection.
FW400 in the iPod is how it will be for quote a while-- i discredit rumors that speculate on this automatically anymore. Just some schmuck tossing in extra features to make a rumor sound more attractive--
pnw
Re: Re: Whats wrong with Firewire 800?
Can someone please clarify a point for me:-
Isn't there supposed to be additional control available with FireWire 800, which would allow it to act as a stand-alone unit with the ability to download firewire streams from any connected device? This would allow you to dump direct from DV camera to iPod without a computer in sight!javascript:smilie('
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Can someone please clarify a point for me:-
Isn't there supposed to be additional control available with FireWire 800, which would allow it to act as a stand-alone unit with the ability to download firewire streams from any connected device? This would allow you to dump direct from DV camera to iPod without a computer in sight!javascript:smilie('
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iPod Revamp
i want an iPod revamp oh so very bad but i'm not gonna believe this whole thing about the color screen and the touch screen because it's just not gonna happen for a while and if it does i will go do something incredibly stupid like buy a pc.
i want an iPod revamp oh so very bad but i'm not gonna believe this whole thing about the color screen and the touch screen because it's just not gonna happen for a while and if it does i will go do something incredibly stupid like buy a pc.
More likely iPod function
If you have a look outside the MP3/PDA world, you will see the obvious extra function for an iPod:
http://dvrecorder.com/
http://www.lairdtelemedia.com/files/pdf/specs/LTM-CPDV3.pdf
Even the mighty Sony has realised the future..
http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professional/webapp/ModelInfo?id=67058
All these devices are VERY new and record the firewire stream coming out of your camcorder directly onto hard disk. You can then plug the unit straight into your computer and edit without capturing. All the points where you started and stopped recording are logged - you don't even have to mark scenes.
Apple is into DV, it has three DV apps, any iPod could do this now with a software update, kind of a no-brainer really. Ask any video pro/semi-pro/hobbyist - they would all buy one tomorrow - question is can they make enough of them?
If you have a look outside the MP3/PDA world, you will see the obvious extra function for an iPod:
http://dvrecorder.com/
http://www.lairdtelemedia.com/files/pdf/specs/LTM-CPDV3.pdf
Even the mighty Sony has realised the future..
http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professional/webapp/ModelInfo?id=67058
All these devices are VERY new and record the firewire stream coming out of your camcorder directly onto hard disk. You can then plug the unit straight into your computer and edit without capturing. All the points where you started and stopped recording are logged - you don't even have to mark scenes.
Apple is into DV, it has three DV apps, any iPod could do this now with a software update, kind of a no-brainer really. Ask any video pro/semi-pro/hobbyist - they would all buy one tomorrow - question is can they make enough of them?
Originally posted by MacFan25
We are hoping for the best...and a 30% price cut would be very nice.
by all means. but that doesn't make it more likely, and the argument that they drop a 4000$ piece of hardware 200$ makes it likely that they will cut 500$ iPods by the same amount is totally illogical.
but hey, i would like that! i could probably get an old 5 GB one for 150$ if they went down like that. i would jump on that so fast.... i might even go 10 GB for 200, as that would hold my whole library and then OS X (2 GB) on top of that
hehe. Originally posted by Shadowfax
by all means. but that doesn't make it more likely, and the argument that they drop a 4000$ piece of hardware 200$ makes it likely that they will cut 500$ iPods by the same amount is totally illogical.
but hey, i would like that! i could probably get an old 5 GB one for 150$ if they went down like that. i would jump on that so fast.... i might even go 10 GB for 200, as that would hold my whole library and then OS X (2 GB) on top of that
The price drop is dependent on the number of models. The price drop will HAVE to be much more significant if there are 10,20,30, and 40 GB iPods. If there are only 3 levels there isn't as much room for drops. Throw in a 30 GB, and you've got 4 different players with a max of $500. Unless there are some new, REALLY good features included in the 40 GB model, there's no way it could top the $500 price level of the 20 GB right now. You know that they can't have a 10 GB model for $100 or $150, so what are they going to do if there are 4 models? It would more likely than not go $200, $300, $400, $500. So logically a 20 GB would be 60% of the original $500 price tag. That's the only way to price them with 4 models, because the difference in GB would be the same between each model (10 GB).
HOWEVER, that said, I believe there will only be 3 models, and it only makes sense that they would stay at the same 3 price levels, but doubling what you get for that money. 5,10, 20 > 10, 20, 40. Just the doubling the amount of hard drive space would have a huge effect psychologically on consumers.
I agree with your prediction--no 30 GB. but i don't think there is any law that apple won't go over 500$. i don't think they would, mind you, but it's not set in stone. i mean, that's also a 50% cut on the 10 GB... i dunno... if they did go 30, i think they would cut out the 5 AND the 10 GB models. i still don't think they would cut the 20 GB by 200$, but i think the same cut on the 10 GB is even more outrageous. i think apple will keep it at 3 models, 3,4, and 500$, no matter what they do.
Hey I'm not sure if it means anything but the green new sticker on the iPods over at the Canadian Apple store has been corrected as well. What are the chances of a Wednesday release?
Mike
Mike
A Wednesday release would be odd, but considering the fact that Monday was a holiday, I wouldn't rule it out.
i know it's not hardware, but they annihilated the price of (what was it?) WebObjects by several thousands right? my point is, it wouldn't be too crazy to expect that. oh, and what about the 23" HD, $3500 down to $2000 in a day.
here's hoping...i bought my iPod the day it was anounced a year and a half ago, and my imac a year ago. i sold my 5gigger and it's about time i was totally irresponsible about my finances again heh
Originally posted by evoluzione
i know it's not hardware, but they annihilated the price of (what was it?) WebObjects by several thousands right? my point is, it wouldn't be too crazy to expect that. oh, and what about the 23" HD, $3500 down to $2000 in a day.
here's hoping...i bought my iPod the day it was anounced a year and a half ago, and my imac a year ago. i sold my 5gigger and it's about time i was totally irresponsible about my finances again heh
thanks for pointing the 23" example out to me. i was just shocked when they did that. i would have fallen out of my chair if i'd been in the market for one, because, gosh, it's actually a really good deal now!
i'm a believer now. if they drop it $150-200, i'll buy the 10 GB in a minute, or at least an old price dropped 5 GB from somewhere that still has them. here's to hoping!
i can see the rendezvous integration, but i still don't see much point to wireless except to make it bigger and more battery hungry. i think you can still do rendezvous w/o the wireless