Apple can't answer this (makes sense) but maybe someone else out there knows more than I do. 1.) What I'd like to know is how much longer the iPod Touch 4 will be popping up in the refurbished section of their website. They are still selling it "new", so I see it happening for at least a little while longer. The thing is, I am not sure if that will be too late for me (long story.) 2.) When the iPod Touch 5 comes out, how long do you think it'll take before one appears in the refurbished section of their website?