iPod touch does not allow creating persistent playlists untethered - WTF??????

Uhhh... the On The Go playlist is synced with iTunes.

 

Wait.. on normal iPods, I'm pretty sure you could save the On the Go playlists.

Even before you reach a computer.

And once you do sync to itunes, it automatically saves the previous on the go playlist, and I'm pretty sure it adds it to the iPod anyway.

You saying it doesn't do this on the Touch?

 

Don't feed the troll.

Apparently the OP hasn't figured out that it is possible to create playlists on the iPod Touch without the use of iTunes, and that these playlists are saved when you sync.

RTFM

 

No troll feeding here, I'm genuinely wanting to figure this out.

On my 2g Nano, I can make an On the Go playlist. Then, I go to the playlist itself, and then I've I scroll to the very bottom of all the songs I can then select either something like 'clear playlist' or 'save playlist'. If I select save, then that playlist appears with the others as Playlist 1.

So I'm saying my old Nano can do this years ago.

And I do want to upgrade to a Touch. So are you saying it can't do this either?

I should have just checked this out for myself first.

http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/iPod_touch_3.0_User_Guide.pdf

Page 51.

Drama over. I knew that the Touch wouldn't have this left out.

 

Well, that's an important piece of information. On the Go playlists do not sync if you manage your music manually. If you sync, they do what you have requested when you connect to iTunes.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2715?viewlocale=en_US

 

And i'd like to add that, while it plays music, i wouldn't say it is near perfect. in fact, i'd venture to say that it is 15% music player and the rest is PDA.

But the fact that you sync your music yourself is indeed important. But gee, i actually did the on the go playlist after reading this - so i learned something at 2am today! LOL!!

 

The original post is an interesting personality study.


Mooch

 

On the ipod touch, there is no "save playlist" function. You can have only one On-the-Go playlist at a time, until you sync with iTunes, at which point the current On-the-Go playlist is saved as "On the Go 1" or something like that. But there is no way to save the current On-the-Go playlist while you are away from your computer -- you can add and remove songs and change song order, you can clear the playlist and start over, but you are stuck with only one On-the-Go playlist while you are on the go.

 

Right you are sir.

I read the manual again, I somehow missed it! So the OP is correct. Lets hope this can be changed soon!

 

Apple.com/feedback

allow yourself to be heard where someone is listening!

 

Sync to iTunes (Mac or Windows) and a backup is made. Don't sync and yeah it will get reset to some degree.

Nice strawman argument. Windows is a desktop general purpose OS. The iPod is a media player that can do *some* general purpose stuff also like a PDA.

Apple's philosophy is that if you want to take the time to make a playlist, a Mac/PC is the place to do that. If you want to make ad-hoc playlists you can either make an On the Go playlist or you can select a song and tap the Genius icon.

It sounds to me like you are the one who is insisting on things be done *your* way only. If you don''t like the iPod touch get a Zune and try that. No one is forcing you to keep using the iPod touch. You must have such a frustrating life if you apply this world view to everything else.

Zoloft: it works wonders!

 

Isn't that how it is with non-Touch Ipods, too? You have an On The Go playlist that can be added to, you know, "on the go." When you're not "on the go," connected to the computer, it "stops" that playlist and the next time you use it, starts a new one. I've never purposely created OTG lists, but somehow have created several OTGs accidentally on my various Ipods over the years.

And for the OP, I have found the best way to handle filling your Ipod/Touch/Iphone/etc. is to automatically sync it, but have a playlist that you dump whatever you want into it. In other words, you aren't syncing everything in your library, but just one playlist in particular. You are essentially automatically syncing a manual playlist. This way I keep track of my playcounts, etc. while maintaining the ability to easily determine what does and does not go on my player - regardless of whether it is attached to my computer.

 

Frankly, I've NEVER used the on the go playlist making. Are you sure that such a feature is SO important it's going to determine the future of the company? Sure, maybe it's something you need, in which case you move on to a device that does it, end story, everyone's happy.

 

The ipod/itunes is designed so that the master copy of your media would be on a PC and the copy on an ipod is just temporary. I think part of the reason they did it this way is to appease the recording/film industry by preventing people from swapping media via the ipod. If this system does not work for you, then by all means, you should find another media player / media manager combination. Perhaps your energy is better spent looking for something that works for you rather than ranting on a forum meant to help people interested in working with the ipod/itunes system.

 

Apple made the deal they had to make in order to sell music. Plain and simple. The music store, since you don't appear to know, didn't start at the same time as the first Ipod was introduced. It came along a couple years later.

Wrong. Totally, completely wrong. You updated it accidentally or selected something to let it automatically update, but it didn't do it by itself. I've never even heard of this happening and I've been around these forums, Ilounge, etc. for over 5 years. It doesn't just happen like magic.

Do what you want. MediaMonkey is great software, no doubt about it. I used it for a long time when I was chained to a PC, but not to manage my Ipods, just to rip CDs and manage artwork.

Again, do what you want, but keeping all of your music solely on a portable player is not just IMO but in MOST people's "O" just asking for it. Bad things happen at random and all it takes is one of those things to lose it all - forever. There's more than one reason why Apple wants you to keep your music on your PC. It's not just to keep you from giving it to friends. It's a "safe harbor." Your PC stays in one place, your player goes with you and endures the risky stuff. If something catastrophic happens, you always have it at home. And, seriously, you're concerned about 2.7gb of music? I have 220gb of music on my Macbook. You can't afford a measly 2.7gb of space?

There are a lot of dumb complaints about how Itunes works with Ipods, but this was one of the dumber ones, for sure. It's very sensible software, for the most part, and many people here explained it very sensibly, many times, and still you went on the attack over and over. Personally, I really wish people like you would just not buy Apple products. You think everything's greener everywhere, so please, check out the other side and let us know what you think after a while. My guess is you'll want to come back pretty quickly (but some don't, and you may be among them, and that's fine.) If you just learn the logic of Itunes, you'll understand it, but you're more interested in fighting it and trying to do things the old Microsoft way, which is "freedom to do anything, including screw it all up." More power to you.

 

Just stop it,
You have been complaining since day one about the iPod touch and Apple related issues, A simple search of your post's make it clear you are a "TROLL" and come back every few months to start Some diluted B.S. issue to make yourself feel important, First it is jail breaking in April now it is this to go along with all the other cut downs to all things Apple.

I See you for who and what you are and so should all the other good people that try to help you and get sucked into your feeble attempt at confrontation you try to trap them in.


"Here an April post from the OP, Then each of you decide what is the intentions of the poster, Needing Help or to create malice.
See it for what it is.

Why the OP rehashes an old argument that he started 9 months ago and then tries to make it sound like this has been unknown to him or her is proof enough of "TROLLING"

And NOW to top it all off the OP Post this little Jewell,
"I am declaring this thread closed. Respond if you like, but I am done here, as the evidence speaketh for itself. As I have nothing further to say, and so will not, except..."

Antagonize then run away like a scared rabbit, "This is Trolling Behavior"


Facts are,
A Troll is a Troll and , Still the same thing, Rehash a 9 month old post, disappear (Like a troll only to collect toll) then not post anything for 9 months and then Start the Same post again....
Oh the Humanity

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