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iPod touch iPod Touch in Linux

easily mount iphone/ipod on linux

1.- Yes, you have to jailbreak your iphone/ipod ....there is a really nice app to do this painless.... on windows or mac : http://download.ziphone.org/
You can unjailbreak it with this app............
2.-Of course, ubuntu guys figured out this...
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
I have an ipod touch with a 1.x firmwire and an iphone 2.x firmwire........ works with both...
3.-Why we use linux :
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html
 
JoeDuncan said:
Actually, that's not true. The newest firmware (2.2) has been jailbroken almost since it came out in November:

http://www.installerapps.com/2008/11/21/jailbreak-22-iphone-and-ipod-touch/

The only issue is that you need either a Mac or a PC to do the jailbreaking. After that there are a number of Linux tools you can use for syncing/transferring. I hear GTKPod is the best.
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If you'd have rounded comprehension of the issue at hand here, you'd realize that he cannot modify the software because it isn't supported on the current revision of the iPod due to hardware issues.
 
Hi , was taking a quick read and noticed this thread. Also a Linux user and just got a touch , late Christmas Gift.

K not sure on jailbreak but found some interesting vids on youtube.

As for access tried out a free app called Orb for file access from your computer to the touch. Last I checked today they stated a Linux version comming soon.

Also read somewhere that soon you might not have to jail break it but rumors are rumors.

cheers
 
According to WineHQ, iTunes 8.0.2 has a "Silver" support level under current releases of Wine. (Silver support is categorized as "Applications with minor issues that do not affect typical usage".)

http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1347

Perhaps that is an appropriate alternative?

(Edit: Sorry, I just noticed that Wine was already mentioned previously, and apparently seamless iPod synching isn't considered a "typical usage" of iTunes... That's weird, because personally the only time I ever run iTunes is when I want to do something with my iPod.)
 
I came across this threading searching if there are any updates with Linux and the iPod touch. There are way to many mac fanatics posting false propaganda.

I used to use OS X, I think its a great OS and Apple's laptops and music players are top notch. It's at the point now though where Debian/Ubuntu are just as good if not better in some areas (installing new apps and the OS itself, customizing desktop). It's as easy to install as putting in a CD and clicking next for the great majority of computers.

For music players, Apple is still by far the best in my opinion, and there are many Linux users that agree. The iPod touch works well in Linux. I can watch videos, sync music and pictures.

For syncing I use GTKpod and for connecting, I use this program called itunnel.

Here is some info,

jailbreaking via virtualbox
http://www.squidoo.com/iPod-Jailbreak-via-VirtualBox

syncing
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone

I might just make a tutorial on how to sync with a cable. It would help a lot of people it seems.
 
Yea, how many devices actually say "Linux" on their box?

TwinCities Dan said:
Easy there! Before you shoot your mouth off about established users like akonradi helping YOU with YOUR problems, why don't you turn over that "tiny, see-through" box AND READ THE SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS! :mad:
/QUOTE]

Hey, come on. Yes, the guy was being somewhat unreasonable, but then again, how many MP3 players say they "support Linux" on their box? Yet most of them do. Same with the rest of the hardware out there. How is one to know ahead of time?

(Yes, that's what Google is for, but that's beside the point.)
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linas said:
I don't want a relgious war about operating system choices, so please don't turn it into one. It is clear from your remarks that you have never actually spent any time using Linux (which is, in my opinion, light years better than Windows, and better than a Mac -- its easier to use, has a nicer/more elegant GUI, its faster, speedier, and has a broader selection of higher-quality software that is easier to install, etc. Oh, its cheaper too. And 13-year-olds (not just mine) think its one of the coolest things on this planet).

But that is a complete distraction from the FACT that Apple has saddled the beautiful, supremely elegant iPod Touch hardware with crippling software. It has taken what was designed to be a music player and turned it into a vending machine that urges you to pump nickels and dimes into the Apple app store to buy new trinkets as often as possible. In order to turn it into this cash machine, it made software design choices that crippled the product. They designed it, on purpose, to not work out of the box, so that users would be *forced* to install iTunes, and be *forced* to register at the App Store, in order to get a functioning, usable product. Don't try to imply that this is somehow "my fault" for "not reading the box"; it is not: it is very clearly Apple's esign choice, and Apple's fault. Don't try to imply that this has something to do with Linux, its not: it is Apple that made this choice.
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Ouch...It is your fault. You didn't read the box. Linux in all its glory doesn't work with everything. I bought an iPod, I use it on my Mac because it is meant to be used with iTunes. The fact that it may be able to work on linux is a bonus, but I sure don't expect it to work. The iTunes market is Mac and Windows based. If they ever build a linux port of iTunes, I'll be the first to get it. Until then, I won't whine and complain that the iPod is broken or that there is any fault from Apple. It works the way THEY intended. If you don't like the fact that it is not working the way you would like it you probably should have just bought a generic mp3 player that you can mount like an external storage device.

It is posts like yours that make it an embarrassment to say I use linux. Get off your (not so) high horse and join reality. Linux is a great OS, but not everyone supports it. Get it? Got it? Good.

I would like to apologize to everyone here on behalf of legitimate linux users. We are not all zealots. Every OS has it's place, some better than others yes, but all have their place.

Cheers!
 
No need

SnowLeopard2008 said:
Linux stinks rotten eggs, just like your observation skills (can't even bother to read the back of the box). No wonder you people use Linux. There's no serial number, which is usually located in the packaging. Everything is free/open source.
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Hey SnowLeopard2008 THERE'S NO REASON TO BE A D*CKHEAD ABOUT THIS. You say that Linux stinks rotten eggs. Then Google stinks rotten eggs. Google uses Linux servers. Most servers use linux. It's d*cks like you that keep society from advancing. I don't care I'm not forcing Linux on you. You don't need to bash a perfectly good, open source operating system, that's probably better than most propriety operating systems. All I'm saying is, you don't need to insult all of us that use Linux.

SnowLeopard2008 said:
Linux stinks rotten eggs, just like your observation skills (can't even bother to read the back of the box). No wonder you people use Linux.
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Good Day to You,
CompEnt
 
nearing 2010..

Okay, so..

I just got a new 32gb ipod touch, I knew it wouldn't play nice with linux so I haven't yet opened the packaging; now it is time to do some research..

How are things now on this platform?
 
linas said:
From what I can tell, the thing is damaged by design, intentionally mis-engineered by Apple engineers to fail to function as advertised. What was also not clear at the time of purchase was the motive for this rather unpleasant experience. They are actually selling a vending machine, not a music player, and they want you to stick nickels and dimes into the damned app store to get the thing to work. As if $300 wasn't enough for the thing! WTF! I mean, yes, there's an economic crisis and Wall Street died and all, but all of a sudden Apple is so desperate to raise cash that it has to screw over their customers? That's inane! I'm still planning on plowing onward with this one, do the jailbreak thing if that's what it takes, but sheesh, I feel like a sucker. Does Apple seriously believe that they can sucker-punch their customers, and expect repeat purchases?
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Look, I feel with you but Apple has been selling iPods since 2001 and they always required iTunes. In the past it might have been easier to sync/ access the database inside the iPod but it was never intended by Apple. IMHO, I am a bit surprised that you weren't aware of the fact nor do the savvy thing any longtime Linux user knows to do when buying peripherals etc - and anyone should do anyway. Check the requirements or at least try to make some educational research beforehand. If the money spent does hurt the budget somewhat, even more so. Really sorry this happened to you and I wish you good luck that soon someone cracks the recent pod DB and you can use it with the old Linux apps.
 
linas said:
I don't want a relgious war about operating system choices, so please don't turn it into one. It is clear from your remarks that you have never actually spent any time using Linux (which is, in my opinion, light years better than Windows, and better than a Mac -- its easier to use, has a nicer/more elegant GUI, its faster, speedier, and has a broader selection of higher-quality software that is easier to install, etc. Oh, its cheaper too. And 13-year-olds (not just mine) think its one of the coolest things on this planet).

But that is a complete distraction from the FACT that Apple has saddled the beautiful, supremely elegant iPod Touch hardware with crippling software. It has taken what was designed to be a music player and turned it into a vending machine that urges you to pump nickels and dimes into the Apple app store to buy new trinkets as often as possible. In order to turn it into this cash machine, it made software design choices that crippled the product. They designed it, on purpose, to not work out of the box, so that users would be *forced* to install iTunes, and be *forced* to register at the App Store, in order to get a functioning, usable product. Don't try to imply that this is somehow "my fault" for "not reading the box"; it is not: it is very clearly Apple's esign choice, and Apple's fault. Don't try to imply that this has something to do with Linux, its not: it is Apple that made this choice.

Do you think that I am somehow unique in seeing through this bad design/marketing choice? If you do, you google "iPod jailbreak": there are about 2 million hits for this term -- there are millions of web pages where iPod customers are expressing their dissatisfaction with this terrible design choice. I can guarentee you that, of these two million expressions of unhappiness, that 99% of them are either Windows or Mac users. This has nothing at all to do with Linux.:apple:
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Le sigh.

It is no secret that iPods require iTunes. My 14 year old sister could have told you that. All you have to do is read the box or, you know, open google and do a quick search before you plunked down $300 or go to an Apple store and just ask before you make the purchase. You are an adult, it is your fault that you did not look into system requirements beforehand. I would never spend that much money without proper research. You claim this is Apple's fault, yet everyone here seems to know how to get their iTouch to function yet you did not ask this question before you wasted your money and ruined your son's Christmas.

I really really hate when people can't take responsibility for their own actions. The internet is a great tool for consumers, I think I have literally saved myself hundreds of dollars just by googling reviews for products I wanted to purchase that turned out to be not worth the money.

This isn't a mac vs. linux issue. This is an issue of being an informed buyer, plain and simple.:mad:
 
FYI, when you reply - realize that *most* of the thread is a year old.

What is funny is that i remember reading this thread last year - and I didn't even have my Touch yet! LOL!!

Which doesn't change the issue.... the requirements are on the box, don't blame Apple if it doesn't work on something else.
 
For what it's worth, there is progress being made. Most regular iPods have already been unleashed from iTunes, and work is ongoing for the iPhone and iPod touch too. Initial success has been reported, even on iPhones (and therefore iPod touches) that aren't jailbroken.

http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/FAQ#iphonesync

It's all being done by volunteer labour without any help from Apple. (And in all reality, there is no reason why we should expect Apple to offer such help.) As such, there is no official recourse for support if things go wrong.
 
I've really gotta laugh at a lot of this thread guys... Sure, the OP might be at fault for expecting the ipod to work in linux, but the few of ya that jump on the fanboi wagon against *nix is totally hilarious considering Mac stole a freebsd core. Guess what kind of OS that is... here's a clue.... Apple didn't have any hand in making it... =P Anyhow, yeah, Ipod Touch doesn't work in linux, and Apple isn't gonna make itunes for freebsd either, so go back to supporting Creative Labs, at least you'll be working with a company that's done nothing BUT sound devices for the past few decades. They spend their money on product instead of marketing, so the mac guys probably haven't heard of 'em. I own an ipod, I like a few features, but there's comparative devices and some that even 1-up the ipod that are cheaper and will work with linux, windoze, and even mac (or should we call it freebsd with a pretty apple fanboi gui now?) If you wanna wait this out, good luck to ya =D
 
Hardwired said:
I've really gotta laugh at a lot of this thread guys... Sure, the OP might be at fault for expecting the ipod to work in linux, but the few of ya that jump on the fanboi wagon against *nix is totally hilarious considering Mac stole a freebsd core. Guess what kind of OS that is... here's a clue.... Apple didn't have any hand in making it... =P Anyhow, yeah, Ipod Touch doesn't work in linux, and Apple isn't gonna make itunes for freebsd either, so go back to supporting Creative Labs, at least you'll be working with a company that's done nothing BUT sound devices for the past few decades. They spend their money on product instead of marketing, so the mac guys probably haven't heard of 'em. I own an ipod, I like a few features, but there's comparative devices and some that even 1-up the ipod that are cheaper and will work with linux, windoze, and even mac (or should we call it freebsd with a pretty apple fanboi gui now?) If you wanna wait this out, good luck to ya =D
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Technically Apple didn't steal a BSD core. BSD UNIX was available at large and open source correct?
 
jtmx29 said:
Technically Apple didn't steal a BSD core. BSD UNIX was available at large and open source correct?
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just my bad rant wording, lol! still, mac isn't free and clear when it comes to the mac vs. *nix wars. They're the same damn thing now at the base of it all, so nobody should be getting fanboi unless they're yelling at some poor windows user =P hehe
 
Re: Itouch / Microblock / Mac / Linux

Okay, simply, i know this is an old thread, answers have been given, the word has been spread, there has been both mac and linux bashing. the basics of it is my friends with an ipod touch. You have two basic options:

A) Purchase Windows, or a Mac, get itunes, pay for your music, download it properly, and play nice with the big boys. If you use linux, just make a small partition and simply reboot to windows / mac to do your music.

B) Completely bypass the headache, pirate xp or vista or 7 (they are there) dont register, or even go online with it. Partition it to small corner on your harddrive, download all your music on linux, put it on a flash drive (which will work on both OS's) and a setup for itunes, reboot to windows, install itunes, and from than on just reboot to move music from one hard, to the itouch on the OS, via flash drive. I know damn well illegal, but after 225 dollars for an itouch, im not buying a 150 dollar OS that has security limitations, and for the people squashing linux, yes it uses commmand line, but it does everything your OS does, and more.....for free.
 
It works under Linux. You can dump iTunes!

Newskool said:
Okay, simply, i know this is an old thread, answers have been given, the word has been spread, there has been both mac and linux bashing. the basics of it is my friends with an ipod touch. You have two basic options:

A) Purchase Windows, or a Mac, get itunes, pay for your music, download it properly, and play nice with the big boys. If you use linux, just make a small partition and simply reboot to windows / mac to do your music.

B) Completely bypass the headache, pirate xp or vista or 7 (they are there) dont register, or even go online with it. Partition it to small corner on your harddrive, download all your music on linux, put it on a flash drive (which will work on both OS's) and a setup for itunes, reboot to windows, install itunes, and from than on just reboot to move music from one hard, to the itouch on the OS, via flash drive. I know damn well illegal, but after 225 dollars for an itouch, im not buying a 150 dollar OS that has security limitations, and for the people squashing linux, yes it uses commmand line, but it does everything your OS does, and more.....for free.
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gtkpod with latest libgpod4 library works fine in Linux. You don't need those 'illegal' Windoze or Mac's iTunes!
I came across this thread accidentally and found that several people rate Apple's decision to control iPad and its cousins by providing a totally closed software as something great! iPod and its cousins implement nothing but standard USB storage to store music and other files. They just tried to make it proprietary to make life of others more difficult. I can not see it as any innovation. By making it normal USB storage without those clumsy encrypted checksums, they could have made an open product and everyone would have loved it.
 
Linux iPod Touch Support

At the end of the day syncing these devices should only involve copying files and updating some noddy database. The problem is that Apple want to force people to use iTunes so they can maximise the sales of music via their store. The iPod is now the only portable music player on the market that doesn't use an open standard for syncing with mobile music devices; I think it is understandable these days why a customer would expect such a simple device to "just work" anywhere. Its a shame that such a great company as Apple don't seem to want to play ball with the rest of the industry.

However Ubuntu Linux now claims to support the iPod touch -- has anyone tried this? I don't have linux at the moment so I can't verify.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
 
So I am guessing that there still isn't any new non jailbreaking alternatives? I just installed iTunes through PlayonLinux (a wine... something sorry I am just your average computer user who chose Linux because it's the only thing that will work at a reasonable speed on my eeepc. :) ) but it won't recognize my iPod Touch still. :p I was really hoping that it would. :(

Because of the size of my memory I can't do partitions. I will be able to buy more probably in a couple months or so. I haven't been able to update my iPod Touch for nearly a year now and it is frustrating because it's not updated to the newest version of software so I can't download hardly any new programs for it.

My parents have windows on their computers that I could use but because they don't have the latest and greatest versions of Windows (which they have Vista and XP so I don't understand the big fuss :p) iTunes won't work on their computers. I have been told that an older version of iTunes should work, but haven't gotten around to it yet. *sigh* :p.

So I am posting hoping that something new has occurred recently allowing me to use my Eeepc to update and sync my touch.
 
amsk1982 said:
At the end of the day syncing these devices should only involve copying files and updating some noddy database. The problem is that Apple want to force people to use iTunes so they can maximise the sales of music via their store. The iPod is now the only portable music player on the market that doesn't use an open standard for syncing with mobile music devices; I think it is understandable these days why a customer would expect such a simple device to "just work" anywhere. Its a shame that such a great company as Apple don't seem to want to play ball with the rest of the industry.

However Ubuntu Linux now claims to support the iPod touch -- has anyone tried this? I don't have linux at the moment so I can't verify.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
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I have Linux Mint Isadora or else I would def try that. :)
 
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