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As someone who is in the market for an iPod Touch I would absolutely love for it to gain a GPS, and I guess a camera could be of some use for impulsive snaps.

The problem is that people tend to forget that for those of us who are unwilling to enter a term contract with a phone provider the unsubsidised price of the iPhone (at least here in New Zealand) is well over double the price of the iPod Touch. How can that difference be justified if there is a minimal difference in functionality between the two devices?

Even as it is I would argue that a cheap phone and an iPod Touch represents much better value than an iPhone. Sure, it's a pain to have two seperate devices and to be limited to WiFi for internet access, but is it really worth paying double the price or entering into a two year service contract for the iPhone?
 
As someone who is in the market for an iPod Touch I would absolutely love for it to gain a GPS, and I guess a camera could be of some use for impulsive snaps.

The problem is that people tend to forget that for those of us who are unwilling to enter a term contract with a phone provider the unsubsidised price of the iPhone (at least here in New Zealand) is well over double the price of the iPod Touch. How can that difference be justified if there is a minimal difference in functionality between the two devices?

Even as it is I would argue that a cheap phone and an iPod Touch represents much better value than an iPhone. Sure, it's a pain to have two seperate devices and to be limited to WiFi for internet access, but is it really worth paying double the price or entering into a two year service contract for the iPhone?

Most of us arent constantly having our brains fried by WiFi signals.
 
I have been hoping for a iPod Classic/iPod Touch hybrid for a few years, even though I know it will never come. iPod Hybrid would be like iPod Touch, except thicker. It would include maybe 1-2 gigs of flash memory for interface elements and buffering, and at minimum a 250GB hard drive for storage.
 
I 100% understand that the ipod Touch needs a camera because of the apps, but the ipod nano and ipod classic? That is kinda dumb if you ask me.
 
I hope it's true :)

I hope the ipod touch does come with a camera~ If true I'm so going to buy one. I don't know why they didn't think of putting a camera on the touch sooner?

I dont see why the other ipods need cameras? I guess it would be cool, maybe... i dunno

Time will tell, and the clock continues to count down to the new ipod/touch updates
 
...but is it really worth paying double the price or entering into a two year service contract for the iPhone?

For me - Yes it's been worth it to not deal with two devices or Windows mobile. I have yet to miss a call on my iPhone because I was listening to music on my iPod - oh, wait it's because they're together...

Been happily drinking the Kool-aid for three years now - can't wait for the flavor of next year's... :)
 
to the person(s) who have been saying that the ipod touch will compete with the flip- you have stated what i tell to everyone who is asking me what is the best digital camera right now. the next ipod touch will KILL the competition. this will be the staple electronic in every teenagers life, as it is right now. the next one will mean HUGE, like- totally unprecedented sales for Apple. i can easily see how people in my school will use the new ipod touch throughout the day:

-playing multiplayer games from the app store on the bus
-shooting a video of their friend banging their head on the table at lunch
-printing articles for school projects from MobSaf in the library (my school just got an open network for students to use home computers)
-taking notes in class
-listening to tunes during a drop (as my high school uses a block schedule)
-start typing a homework report on the bus on the way home

from last spring, watching my friends playing on their ipods and using them as a major social tool, i can only imagine what will come from this refresh. the september update seriously needs longer battery life, though.

<end rant>
 
Flash chip size:
IIRC the biggest flash chips available are 64Gb (~bit) and not 64GB (~byte). This means you had to stuff 16 of 'em into an iPod touch 128GB, this wont happen. Not this year. Maybe next, but read on.

iPod classic:
Although there *may* be a demand for even bigger classics or classics with huge flash capacities, some thing remain to consider:
The demand for that much capacity may not be very big so it may just not be worth the effort for apple. Apple didn't hear those demands when they reduced the maximum available capacity back then from 160GB to 120GB, so they probably won't now. And they won't just replace the hard drive with flash, the classic would need a complete redesign which would be possible then. But, I'm sceptical for Apple hearing the demand for a Player with physical controls. It had to be cheaper than the touch but it won't be a lot cheaper to build (due to flash prices). Plus, it would admit the touch having some issues. So I'm expecting the classics to fade, if not this year, probably next year. I'm also not expecting (and not liking the idea of) a classic with a camera.

iPod touch and nano capacity upgrade:
Usually Apple kept prices and doubled capacity. I'm not quite sure if this will happen this time. As the biggest available flash chips afaik didn't double in the meantime, they needed a complete redesign of the pcb for stuffing twice as much flash chips in there. So, probably (I hoping I'm wrong) they built up this camera-for-iPods thing to give at least some advantage over last years models. The touch coming out as 'touch S' (with gps, camera ect) would be great, though, even without 64GB. And I do like the idea of having a nano with a camera for video and stills, because even if I had a point-and-shoot camera, I wouldn't carry it along with me most of the time. But, a nano without 32GB this year seems uninteresting to me as I can have a Fuze with 8GB+16GB for a little more than 100€.
 
I'm not passionate about it whatsoever but merely stray on the side of cautioun with regard to new technology that involves particles thinner than your hair.

you do realize almost all particles are smaller than that, right?

not to just jab, jab, jab, but you do sound very paranoid.....
 
honestly, i hope they don't. At least not for the classic and nano. There is plenty of other stuff apple could be announcing @ this event. This is just a waste of time.
 
Nano

I want to buy the new Nano online, I did this last time because my daughter wanted the exclusive red chrome colour with engraving. Delivery was prompt.

Its my son's birthday on Sep 10 and he wants the "new" nano. If it means waiting weeks, then I'll just get him an "old" nano, if there are any left

My question is: how soon after the Sep 9 media event will products become available to buy from the online apple :apple: shop (Australia) ??

thank you
 
To be honest i'm the owner of Ipod Classic a 1st gen ipod nano and Ipod Touch.

i would say despite the Ipod Touch is nice with nice screen and all that, I feel for me it was bought in for my ego then anything else. I think that Ipod Classic and Nano you have much more control with the lists and music. Of course Ipod Touch has media device then the other ipods but my sole use is to hear music.

It is very nice to see movies, play a few games and all, but musci Ipod Nano and Classic are better then Ipod Touch.

I think that camera in iphone touch will not be big surprise that this event tends to promise, specially if this event marks the return of Steve Jobs presenting these events again.

Don't get me wrong the camera in Ipod Touch has its advantanges, but don't confuse that Ipod Touch will now be photo camera. Like the on the phones are simply for the fun of it and cannot be compared to an SLR. So to me I I want to take picture I use a camera and if I want to hear music i hear it on Ipod Classic or Nano, if I want to see films I would use My Macbook, PC desktop or My TV, If I want to go to the net I use my macbook or PC desktop.

I think we are slowly entering into an era, where people (young people) tend to mix things up with the cell phones and so on. Call me old fashion, but seeing a film on tiny screen like the Iphone or Ipod Touch if have available a large TV screen, monitor of my PC desktop or my macbook (in vacation). If this even it simply an upgrade of Ipods and introduction of of new music, then I will not woe me at all.

What I want is freaking new Apple Cinema Display for desktops, or new tablet, Iphone Nano or Mac pro, macbook pro or Macbook reading from Blue-ray or writting on blue-ray. That would surprise me.
 
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