iPod Touch or Ultra Portable

Discussion in 'iPod touch' started by stubeeef, Oct 11, 2008.

  1. stubeeef macrumors 68030


    Aug 10, 2004
    Ok, I love the touch. But it is expensive considering some new ultra portables.

    Here ( http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-8...ery/dp/tech-data/B001EYVBE0/ref=de_a_smtdwith ) is one ultra portable

    Product Features
    * 1.6GHz Atom N270
    * 1GB DDR2 SDRAM
    * 1.3 Megapixel camera, SDHC and multi-format media readers
    * 802.11b/g, Ethernet, three USB 2.0, VGA, and 3.5mm audio out
    * One free mini PCI slot for WWAN, 160GB hard drive (2.2 pounds)
    Processor, Memory, and Motherboard
    * Hardware Platform: PC
    * Processor: 1.6 GHz Intel Core Solo
    * System Bus Speed: 533
    * Number of Processors: 1
    * RAM: 1000 MB
    * RAM Type: DDR2 SDRAM
    Hard Drive
    * Size: 160 GB
    * Manufacturer: Portable
    * Type: Serial ATA
    Ports and Connectivity
    * Modem: None
    Cases and Expandability
    * Size (LWH): 6.7 inches, 9.8 inches, 1.14 inches
    * Weight: 5.35 pounds
    * Rated Charge (normal use): 5.5 hours

    For $399 vs 32gb iPod touch for $399

    HELP ME DECIDE. I travel half of NC selling medical devices. The extra screen size would be great, as well as other features. I do have a company supplied Dell latitude D620 with no bluetooth and seems too clugy to bring around with me.
    What do you think? And why?
  2. orpheusmyth macrumors member

    May 10, 2008
    Those are two different things. One is a web pc, the other is a mp4 player with wireless built in. I've got a Ipod Touch and I think it's better than any web pc because it's smaller. I really don't know how to help you more than this.
  3. Muncher macrumors 65816


    Apr 19, 2007
    They're both an equal amount. Choose the one you'll be happier with. Personally, I love my touch.
  4. skyrider007 macrumors 65816


    Aug 5, 2007
    If you don't need to type much or *need* office suite then go for the Touch. It's Internet browsing capability is one of the best I have ever experienced in a device that small.
  5. Renator macrumors member

    Jan 21, 2008
    Milwaukee, WI
  6. stubeeef thread starter macrumors 68030


    Aug 10, 2004
    While I have never paid for a PC (work gives me one) and I have only owned Mac's since my first in '87, the netbook concept attracts me. Touch and ultra portable both play games, videos, iTunes, and the ultra portable has a camera, so have tv tuners, portability, and yes linex to avoid winblows.

    It just seems that an ultraportable for $399 or a Touch for $399 gets me thinking. I was just curious if anyone here had been pulled either way or just jumped on the Touch.

    Why the hell apple can't come out with a tablet is beyond me, I have a friend who still owns a newton. Good lord the market has proven there are buyers, apple is WAY behind on this. Give my an 8.9" laptop/tablet like fuji has and I would drop $2k to be first in line (include GPS apple please).
  7. HLdan macrumors 603


    Aug 22, 2007
    I'm not saying that your wish may come true but before you rant any further wait till Tuesday.
    Now, I can give you a good answer about the iPod Touch since I just bought one. I use it for my work and I need email, contacts and calendar on the go. I had no interest for an iPhone yet I wanted all the features without the phone. Apple answered my prayers.
    It's just like having a portable Macintosh especially now that it can read iWork, MS Office and PDF's on the go.
    A netbook is for someone who needs a lappy but needs a very small one that can still do editing of spreadsheets and maybe connect peripherals to it such as a printer.
    The iPod Touch is not for this person.

    The iPod Touch is for someone who needs to view all their desktop documents, read emails and connect to the web, have an entertainment device but wants all of these features to reside in their coat pocket.
    The netbook is not for this person.

    With that said, your logic is flawed that the iPod Touch is too expensive just because it's priced around the same as a mini notebook that can do a bit more. The netbook is not ideal if someone wants to hang out the whole day, still have access to all of your files but not want to carry around a big device. Trust me, the netbook will appear big when you don't feel like carrying a lot of stuff.
    The Apple Newton was the first portable device with handwriting recognition, it failed and that's why Apple remade it into the iPod Touch without the handwriting recognition.
    What tablet PC do you know of that was so successful that people are talking about it on the web like they do Apple products?

    It's up to you but the forum can't make the decision for you.
  8. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    I would think playing games on a ultraportable computer would be a very frustrating experience, as most PC games are designed to be played on a desktop machine. It's likely that the graphics would look cramped on a ultraportable's small screen, and that working the game controls from the tiny keyboard would be clumsy at best. Games for the iPod Touch/iPhone are designed from the grounds up to be played on the Touch/iPhone's multi-touch screen, accelomerator-enabled platform. I think it would be a big mistake to assume that just because a ultrportable and Touch/iPhone both play games, you get an equivalent gameplay experience on both platorms.
  9. wordmunger macrumors 603


    Sep 3, 2003
    North Carolina
    They are two different things. You could equally say the Acer is huge and ungainly for a personal music player. How could you take that thing jogging? It doesn't fit in your pocket, and it even fits in very few purses. The battery life is a puny 5.5 hours versus 24-plus for the touch.

    If you primarily need a portable computer, the touch probably isn't for you--too ungainly for typing, and even surfing the web is awkward compared to a real computer. I suspect the Acer would be better for that.

    I wouldn't like the Acer's shrunken-down keyboard, but I'm a writer. Maybe it would be fine for someone who doesn't do much typing. For me, the MBA beats it hands down -- but for others, the Acer may be the perfect solution.
  10. i-Want-Apples macrumors regular

    Aug 25, 2008
    I can definitely see where you would find a dilemma in choosing between the two. I think the decision will ultimately come down to what you are wanting to use the device for the most. I've had the touch for a few weeks now and love, I also have some pretty small laptops that I travel with, though I don't have an ultra-portable, yet, so I will give you my experiences and hopefully this will help.

    Since you travel a lot, you obviously know how important it can be to travel with as little as possible and to reduce as much weight as possible. The ipod Touch is going to take quite a bit of weight and size away, compared to the ultra-portable, even though it is small, it can't really compare to the iPod Touch. Don't get me wrong though, I was quite surprised when I opened the touch because the weight is very substantial. I was a little concered that it wouldn't have any weight behind it because of the size, but it really feels good in the hand. So overall, when it comes down to size, I think the iPod Touch wins hands down. It can do a lot of the things the Ultra-Portable will do, but in a smaller package.

    Now, on the other hand, the smaller package on the iPod touch means a much smaller screen. The screen is very larger for a device of this size, but comparing to an ultra-portable, you will be losing some screen space. For watching movies, playing games and listening to music, the screen in perfect on the touch. However, if you will be doing a lot of internet surfing and things like that, you may find the ultra-portable screen to be much for convenient. I've been using the touch for a few weeks and have found the screen to work really nicely, but I don't use it for surfing the web that much. If you plan to do a lot of surfing, then the screen may become tiresome after a while. So, in terms of the screen, I think that the upper-hand may go to the ultra-portable.

    In terms of capacity. I was originally planning to get 8gb, but then decided with applications and movies I may be better off with 16gb and so far I'm completely happy with it. I know that the 160gb of the ultra-portable is very tempting, but it also depends if you will need that much space. The main laptop I use right now has 160gb hard drive, I have tons of pictures, movies and music (including several copies because of having the songs on my different MP3 players) and of course my word documents, and other files, I've not come close to filling the hard drive. Obviously different users use different amounts of space, but it really comes down to whether you need that much space, or if it is mostly appealing because of the size vs. price. For the uses of the touch (unless you have a huge music collecton or video collection) I think that 32gb should be plenty for most users. Obviously you cannot store everything on there, but videos and things don't necessarily need to be on all the time, I personally remove videos once I watch them as I have not interest in watching them again, at least on the touch, I prefer to get something new to watch for the next time. So in terms of space, this is a toss-up depending on how much space you will ultimately need.

    Battery life: Both devices are not going to provide a ton of battery life, however, I think because of the size the iPod Touch will most likely give you the better battery life of the two. For music the battery life is great, for vidoes, games and internet, it is decent. For the ultra-portable you would be able to charge anywhere, for the iPod Touch you would need to buy an accessory so you could charge in a regular outlet (you can get a generic one for around $15 and I believe the Apple one costs $30. ) I can generally get by with charging my touch once a day, less if I'm mostly listening to music. With my smallest laptop I try to do as much work as possible while it is being charged and then can get by with a couple of hours without being plugged in. So, in terms of the battery life, I think the touch would be the better option of the two.

    Features: I think that both options provide a lot of options as far as what you can do, but both would depend on what you plan to do to determine which is the winner. If you plan to do a lot of computing, the ultra-portable will be the winner, hands-down. You have the larger screen, larger keyboard (a must if you will be doing a lot of typing. you will get used to the virtual keyboard, but even with practice and time, an actual keyboard will always be a little easier if you are going to be doing a lot of work) The ultra-portable also allows more functionality as a computer, giving you the ability to work with more documents (and in an easier fashion) as well as install programs that you may not be able to use on the iPod Touch. I'm not sure if you require anything special with your job, but if you have to have any programs, the touch may not be a good option. So, the ultra-portable gives you all the functionality of a computer, in a smaller format, while also allowing you to have an entertainment aspect as well.

    On the other hand, the iPod Touch allows you to listen to music and listen to it with much better quality, as I'm sure the ultra-portable will not have as good of sound as a dedicated music device. You also have the ability to watch movies, play games, surf the web and use the various apps that Apple offers. The apps are great as they offer so many different options and really can become addicting and very helpful once you find the ones that work best for you.

    So, in terms of features, the ultra-portable will be the winner if you plan to do more computer related tasks. On the other hand, the iPod Touch will take the victory if you plan to do more in regards to entertainment.

    I think both options will work great. It all comes down to what you plan to use it for the most and what features they offer are most appealing. And again, a big thing to consider is size, they are both tiny, but with the touch you can throw it in your pocket and go, with an ultra-portable you would need to have a bag or something to get around with it.

    As the other post said, it wll definitely be worth waiting to see what is announce at the event and see if anything works for you. I am personally planning to get a Macbook Air soon. I'm not sure if this is portable enough for you, but for me I think it will work great. As far as the weight goes, it is quite lite and not something that would be an issue for me. As far as size, I think it will great. If you can manage to take a messenger bag with you, the Air isn't much bigger than most magazines and legal pads, which when I travel are always in my carry on anyway. I still plan to keep the touch and take it with me as well, but as far as work is concerned, I still need to have the functionality of a latop, but want something that is going to be as small as possible and something like an ultra portable just doesn't work for the work I would be doing.

    Hope this helps and doesn't cause more confusion... Good luck with your decision, I know it can be difficult sometimes!
  11. 4DThinker macrumors 68020

    Mar 15, 2008
    I've got a Touch, and recently saw that Target is selling the ASUS EEE (about the same size as the ACER) in their stores. They are certainly two different things, yet can do many of the same tasks. I can carry my Touch in a pocket or on my belt, but my wife could easily slip that ASUS in her purse. I primarily just use my Touch around the house, and for web related tasks. The ASUS or the ACER could easily do all those same tasks, yet with a larger screen and simpler text input. I enjoy browsing the web on my Touch, but not as much as I enjoy it on a larger screen.

    My conclusion? I've got a Touch and am going to get the ASUS. You should get both.

    With no bluetooth I don't use my Touch for music. The ACER's 160gb drive could hold my entire music collection, and if it has bluetooth (the ASUS 901 does) It might make me demote my Touch to strictly game machine status.
  12. chewietobbacca macrumors 6502

    Jun 18, 2007
    It comes down to identifying what you want. The two devices are VERY different purposes.

    If you plan on traveling a lot and see that you need your notebook for notebook purposes, the Touch will not replace it. But if you're looking for a music player that can browse when needed, then the Touch will work.

    They're in very different markets.

    Or better yet, just get both :p

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