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iPod touch Released
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Because people don't have $40 a month to blow on phone bills, but have an access point in their house.
I totally agree with you. I have an 8GB nano now and I own A LOT of music (or feel like I do), but I only listen to about 1/100 of it. My nano is about half full, and I'm always changing the mix. Even so, I still fast forward through a lot of the songs on it. So the touch will be perfect for me. And I'll still have room for like 10 movies that I'll probably never watch.
I'm most interested in WiFi on the touch for email and whatnot. But I'm slightly concerned that I won't, for example, be able to take notes with it. I've heard the iPhone note program is lame, so I'm wondering about using the Google word processing program online-- and would I be able to use that when the iPod is offline. Or would I be able to use it at all on an iPod? Has anyone tried it on an iPhone?
I actually expect this to happen in 6 months, since I successfully predicted the phoneless iphone back in Jan. you can trust me...
I'd buy that
I would buy that in a heartbeat.
Right now, the iPhone actually looks more attractive to me than the iTouch, given the recent iPhone price drop...and I'd expect a new 16 gig iPhone is right around the corner.
But I think that is exactly the reaction Apple is going for:
1) move as many people as possible to the new phone product line
2) make some quick money off of folks with iPhone envy who for whatever reason (existing cell contracts, resistance to a new expensive AT&T contract, slow EDGE network) won't buy an iPhone right now
3) create a new revenue stream by releasing a cool new product with an enormous hole in its feature set (storage)...which can only be filled by future products in the same line
I would buy that in a heartbeat.
Right now, the iPhone actually looks more attractive to me than the iTouch, given the recent iPhone price drop...and I'd expect a new 16 gig iPhone is right around the corner.
But I think that is exactly the reaction Apple is going for:
1) move as many people as possible to the new phone product line
2) make some quick money off of folks with iPhone envy who for whatever reason (existing cell contracts, resistance to a new expensive AT&T contract, slow EDGE network) won't buy an iPhone right now
3) create a new revenue stream by releasing a cool new product with an enormous hole in its feature set (storage)...which can only be filled by future products in the same line
It makes sense to have all your music with you, but it makes no sense for video. Why? Because most people like to listen to shuffle their music. You have wide variety of music to listen to. And music is passive, you can just sit and listen. How about video? Shuffle makes no sense, you need to select specific video to watch. And the activity is active, not passive.
Same thing wit pictures. I don't want to look at some random pictures, I want to look at some specific pictures. Hence, me picking and choosing what pictures will be in my iPod is not a big deal. Same thing with video.
Like I said: it makes sense for music to have your entire library with you. For video and pictures it makes less sense. With those two picking and choosing is the natural thing to do, and you therefore do not need insane libraries so you could hold EVERYTHING you have with you.
Since the plan is not to hold your entire collection with you, that is debatable. Sure, individual movie eats more space than single song does. But since it makes no sense to have everything with you, you do not need ungodly amounts of space for the video. You need enough space to hold the content you are planning to consume, that's all.
and that widescreen SCREAMS for video; the iPod Classic screens pales in comparison for watching video. So just when storage demands start to skyrocket, Apple and its dogged defenders tell us, "oooh, you don't really need all of that in your pocket, do you?" I find this hysterical!
Go ahead, but that still doesn't mean that you are right. Or do you shuffle through your videos?
Just to clarify: are we talking about video or music?
And FYI: Would it be a good thing if Touch had 80-160GB of storage? You bet. But fact is that that is simply not realistic.
holding all your collection is exactly what iPod is for. how was iPod marketed?
Some of you people are unbelievable!! I read "We'll I'll just stick to my iPhone' and,'I'm just gonna get an iPhone" sooo dissapointed. Are you kidding me? You think Apple is dumb? Of course they want you to buy the iPhone instead of the iPod. They get montly subscription payments!!!!! And for everyone else that doesn't want to switch to At&t you can get the same device (less phone) with more storeage for the same price. WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT?????
It was marketed as holding your entire MUSIC-collection. Video and audio are consumed in totally different ways. You shuffle through your music, and that's when large selection makes sense. you do NOT shuffle through your videos.
It seems a lot of talk about getting skype working on this. no mic seems biggest issue but then there are ways.
I want one
http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/voip/skype-on-the-apple-ipod-touch.asp
I want one
http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/voip/skype-on-the-apple-ipod-touch.asp
I assume you don't have kids
I assume you don't have kids.
Loads of video and pictures would be a welcome feature. I load decrypted Tivo files onto DVDs for trips---kids watch the same things again and again and again. A video jukebox is a brilliant idea.
Too bad the Classic screen is so tiny. Good thing Apple has this new widescreen version...
I assume you don't have kids.
Loads of video and pictures would be a welcome feature. I load decrypted Tivo files onto DVDs for trips---kids watch the same things again and again and again. A video jukebox is a brilliant idea.
Too bad the Classic screen is so tiny. Good thing Apple has this new widescreen version...
I have no problem to ID the difference, and obviously I can only represent a fraction of users.
furthermore, can iPod Touch fulfill the marketed slogan of "holding your entire MUSIC-collection" as you mentioned? I know my music collection is 83G now... on an external HDD.
So they only watched one video over and over again? And you couldn't fit that video on the Touch because.....?
And like I said: you can fit about 32 movies on the Touch.
what you need to do is "waiting", its not dream, its 80% guaranteed to happen.
explain how they would get higher capacity devices into such a small form factor, and retain the battery capacity they currently have.
if the technology aint there, apple cant use it, your asking for somthing that dosnt exist yet.
well, a small glitch, to hold 32 movies, each movie will have a average size of 220MB, which is.... how about.. low quality?
20 is a good estimate, and I agree thats not a small number.
Im sure a HDD would fit his need well, nothing new tech about it. Apple just didn't do it.
And my library is about 5gigs. So can Touch hold my entire collection? Yes it can, with loads of room to spare. What exactly is this supposed to prove? That different people have different libraries? If the Touch can't hold your library, they have other players that can.
Of course there are people out there that have massive collections (larger than yours even). Does that mean that if Apple markets the 160GB Classic with slogan "hold everything", they are actually lying, because people with 200+GB libraries can't put their entire library on it? There are ALWAYS people who will not be satisfied with the offered product. You can't please everyone.
Chuckle
A few of us wanted the ultimate iPod, for all of the things normal iPods are good for, like massive storage, and so much more. Apple got so close, yet fell so short. It's a shame, but I will happily keep my money until Apple gives me what I want. Not unhappy at all -- just not impressed.
Oddly, we aren't quite as interested in just helping Apple make money. I am a consumer, not an Apple stockholder.
Normal customers just want cool new products that fit our needs. As a consumer, I'd prefer Apple get rich by meeting my needs than by serving its own corporate interests, like sharing in cell phone contracts. Customers who care more about benefiting Apple's own bottom line than their own interests---well, you are just weird, what can I say...
A few of us wanted the ultimate iPod, for all of the things normal iPods are good for, like massive storage, and so much more. Apple got so close, yet fell so short. It's a shame, but I will happily keep my money until Apple gives me what I want. Not unhappy at all -- just not impressed.
Oddly, we aren't quite as interested in just helping Apple make money. I am a consumer, not an Apple stockholder.
Normal customers just want cool new products that fit our needs. As a consumer, I'd prefer Apple get rich by meeting my needs than by serving its own corporate interests, like sharing in cell phone contracts. Customers who care more about benefiting Apple's own bottom line than their own interests---well, you are just weird, what can I say...
well, you don't need to convince me, how many people will need a bigger storage? I don't care, but maybe apple SHOULD care.
LMAO.... iProd... that's a much better name than iPod Touch
The more I think about it, the happier I am that Apple are making this bold move towards flash - even if it's at the expense of their customers in the short term - if it means benefits in the long term. This might be the kickstart the industry needs to start making a much more widespread switch. Other than their massive storage I *hate* hard drives... they're big, slow, noisy, clunky and unreliable (okay some old HDDs from like 10 years ago are still going strong, but you're lucky if a modern HDD lasts more than 3 years). The sooner we can move to a more efficient storage system the better.... it's the 21st century, and it boggles the mind that we're still relying on carefully hovering a head over a magnetic surface.
Incidentally even though I dived in with the iPod Touch I may well end up getting an iPhone eventually. As we know, there's little/no point in having both a Touch and an iPhone. It depends if they make a 3G model. I admit I'm impatient, but I'm willing to pay the price and suck it up later (and NOT bitch and moan) when they release a 32gb 3G iPhone about a week after I receive the 16gb iprod
a valid point, but lets think about it .. there are not many people with music collection larger than 16GB, so its true that they 'can carry their entire collection on their iPod' .. now what if your collection is larger than 16GB say (and might I add, exceedingly mind boggling) 160GB? .. THEN you can carry your entire music collection on your iPod as well .. but only this time its a different version of iPod .. but in essence its still an iPod!
I think the current lineup of iPods is very well balanced and offers something for everyone, shuffle doesn't flatter me with its capacity but it doesn't mean it violates the philosophy behind the IPod, it might not offer to carry your entire collection but it does offer ease of use, fun and is very portable and that makes it an iPod! ... so to blame Apple for not giving you touch screen and OS X and WiFi and safari and 100 Terabytes of storage and a coffee machine all in one package is very cry baby-ish and to moan how it has damaged the concept behind iPod is down right unappreciative of all the effort that has gone in making this very impressive device.
I don't defend Apple like this often, but this time I think the moaners are jut being ridiculous! you've got your 160 gig iPod .. but nooo . .they wanted the 16 gig one to be 160 gig and the 160gig one to be 16 gig . .the black one to be the product red and the product red one to be black ..