iPod Update 2004-10-20

[artifex]

Well, that's what it seems to do - which is a bit lazy on apples part... all i meant with the mobo is that it's like round hole square peg kinda thing, is it not?

AGP and PCI aren't compatible physically, that's true. But the host and slave PCI slots are. Also, the higher speed PCI slots are supposed to be "keyed" differently, but sometimes aren't.

You Apple people have it easy with hardware. Sorta. I know someday I'll switch, but right now I can't afford it.

 

[Yvan256]

it provides improved power management for clickwheel iPods, improved playback performance for other iPods"

Apparently yes, this update means it's only for the iPod Photo.... you'd think some people would READ, but I know that's asking for too much. I just wonder how much it's improved. Hopefully someone will do the benchmarks.

It is only for the Photo iPod?

Because the quote you gave leads me to believe it is for all click wheel iPods.

Not even. The quote he gave us read as "improved power management for clickwheel iPods" (iPod photo, iPod mini and iPod 4G) and "improved playback performance for other iPods" (iPod 1G, 2G, 3G).

So my question is: where/what is this "improved playback performance"? I don't see an update for the 3G iPods (it's still listed as "adds Apple Lossless capability" which was already there months ago.

 

[Yvan256]

On the other hand, thanks for warning us about duplicate detection. That's pretty scary that it matches solely on name and not on real matching of data.

Tell me about it:

- "Deliverance", track 6 of 12 on "1492: The Conquest Of Paradise" by Vangelis, 3:29
- "Deliverance", track 8 of 8 on "Antarctica" by Vangelis, 4:29

- "Epilogue", track 35 of 41 on "Metroid Prime & Fusion" (CD1, hence Metroid Prime), 1:02
- "Epilogue", track 34 of 37 on "Metroid Prime & Fusion" (CD2, hence Metroid Fusion), 1:14

etc...

Funny to see how many tracks are named the same, even on the same CD. But shouldn't iTunes check for track length too? (even if they use a range of +- 5 seconds on it, to account for different track "paddings" by different releases).

 

[combatcolin]

Ok:

1)Yes, when you update an ipod, it clears it off and resets it - new firmware! That's standard with most devices I think you'll find. It only takes me about 20 minutes for 20gigs of music.
2)AGP does run faster than PCI - but it's a whole different standard. As far as I recall from my PC usage days (ok it was last year but my minds a little fuzzy!!) a PCI card WILL NOT fit in an AGP slot - they're different things!! So I dunno what you've moved your card to, but if it's anything like MY motherboard, you won't be getting any graphics:
AGP - Advanced Graphics... something... it's designed for GRAPHICS cards, most motherboards have ONE - so your graphics card is probably sitting in it, if you have one at all...

Now, if your firewire card is still working, and you haven't tried forcing it into an AGP slot, you won't have noticed a difference - cos you'll have moved it from one PCI slot to another. Achieving nothing. Zilch

Sorry if i'm edgy, I'm feeling a slight bout of insomnia as it's 5am...

Thanks

Hob


Oh, and ON subject... THANK GOD for the duplicate detection, thought not as good as I would have hoped - it picks up things with the same name only - for example three tracks by mudhoney labeled [Untitled Interlude] are different lengths - and different interludes! I'd have liked it to be a little stricter with the times... so it just picks up things i have in best ofs AND on albums...!

Hob

Think you misread me mate, it was the pci slot RIGHT NEXT to the AGP slot that i think is rated at 66MHZ on my MB. Pci is rated at 33MHZ (And then theres Pci X at 100 -133Mhz - i think.)

Anyway it was just the ONE Pci slot, the other 3 i know are still plain old 33Mhz.

As i said, i havn't imported any songs for a while so i don't know if there is speed difference.

The last time i did a FirmWare update it wiped the iPods HD (Which dosn't happen to computers - not in may experience anyway) and it took 2 HOURS!!! to copy everything over again.

Copied the same iTunes folder from my iPod to my sisters 1.25Ghz eMac and it took 30 MINUTES!!!

Not going through all that again so i'll wait untill i get my next Mac before i update the Firmware again.

 

[Doctor Q]

Funny to see how many tracks are named the same, even on the same CD. But shouldn't iTunes check for track length too? (even if they use a range of +- 5 seconds on it, to account for different track "paddings" by different releases).

iTunes must check for something other than name. I know from this case, where the songs had different names and were seemingly totally unrelated.

 

[hob]

Not going through all that again so i'll wait untill i get my next Mac before i update the Firmware again.

In my experience it happens on an apple too - just transfers faster... guess that's what you're after!!

Hob

 

[combatcolin]

I updated the firmware ages ago on my iMac and it didn't touch the hard drive.

Don't mind doing it for the rumored AAC plus...

 

[artifex]

I updated the firmware ages ago on my iMac and it didn't touch the hard drive.

Don't mind doing it for the rumored AAC plus...

What's that supposed to do?

 

[combatcolin]

Same sound quality on lower bit rate.

Means a lot with a 21GB iTunes folder.