iPod Videos in Blu-Ray Discs?

[dongmin]

Personally, I'll skip the whole Blu-Ray/HD-DVD thing. Internet downloadable video is coming, and it'll be more convenent and useful than either. It'll be lower quality at the start, but that'll change if bandwidth keeps improving.

Then, you'll be waiting a LONG time. We've been stuck on 128kbps for downloadable music how long??? 1080p is gonna require a fat fat pipe to stream realtime. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that HD is 19.3 Mbps. That kind of bandwidth is not gonna go mainstream anytime soon.

 

[zv470]

As long as the resolution isn't anything less than 720p.

 

[DStaal]

Then, you'll be waiting a LONG time. We've been stuck on 128kbps for downloadable music how long??? 1080p is gonna require a fat fat pipe to stream realtime. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that HD is 19.3 Mbps. That kind of bandwidth is not gonna go mainstream anytime soon.

Where did I say anything about streaming? If I can download a full movie in a reasonable amount of time (overnight?) that's probably enough for me.

 

[59031]

Um no. Betamax was significantly HIGHER quality than VHS. If you believe anything else, you are a muppet.

I am not believing an urban myth, I was there, it was painfully clear what the difference was (and I was a geek so I knew the specs too).

Thank you, I was about to say the same thing. Beta was and STILL IS a superior format to VHS. dr_lha is seriously wrong here. This is why Beta is to this very day STILL the de facto half inch video tape standard in the broadcast video production world. Professional Videographers use Betacams. dr_lha obviously has no knowledge of video production or the technicalities of VHS vs. Beta. I was a huge video geek back in the day and have worked in Video Production up until a recent career switch and VHS stank then and it sill stinks now. Beta was also the innovater, developing the Beta-hifi audio format, when VHS lameley only had "VHS Stereo" (Dr_lha, please explain the difference between Beta-hifi and VHS Stereo, ie. how they were different and why one was dreadful and the other was awesome???)

Hey dr_lha, do you know the difference between U-Loading and M-Loading, and which format used which?????? Do you know which one produced superior picture quality and why???? Huh?? No??? Yeah, I didn't think so.....

 

[shamino]

Thank you, I was about to say the same thing. Beta was and STILL IS a superior format to VHS.

Considering that neither VHS nor Betamax has changed much since their introduction, that would stand to reason.

This is why Beta is to this very day STILL the de facto half inch video tape standard in the broadcast video production world. Professional Videographers use Betacams.

Betacam is not the same as Betamax. They use the same physical tapes, but the encodings are incompatible (Betacam uses a higher tape speed and records video as separate component signals.) As far as I know, Betamax was strictly a consumer product and was never used for studio work.

Today, I would expect studios to use a more modern Beta format (Digital Betacam, or HDCAM) or one of the DV variants (DV, DVCAM, DVCPRO). I'd be surprised if a modern studio used any any analog format (like Betacam) except for playing archival tapes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betamax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betacam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV

 

[dr_lha]

Quoting from this page. Amusingly an anti-Mac page (which I don't endorse).

http://spl.haxial.net/mac-fanatics/

...They claim that Betamax was technically superior to VHS, but ultimately lost because of more aggressive marketing by the VHS companies. This is a myth. An Urban Legend.

Firstly, in terms of the image quality, when these formats were viewed on the average TV that existed at the time, the average person could not see the difference between VHS and Betamax.

The real problem for Betamax was that its cassettes could hold only 1 hour, not enough for a movie. When JVC produced VHS in 1976, its bigger cassettes could hold 2 hours, and this advantage of VHS was crucial in the demise of Betamax. Betamax tried to catch up, but at the same time VHS also extended, and VHS always had longer recording times. VHS won because it was better overall. Anyone that claims that Betamax was a victim of marketing apparently has not researched the issue.

There is also a related Urban Legend which claims that Betamax is what the professionals and TV/broadcasting industry use/used (this legend is used to demonstrate that Betamax is superior). You need only research this claim to discover that it is a blatantly false myth. BetaCAM is what the professionals use. Do not confuse Betacam with Betamax because they are quite different formats. The broadcasting industry would never use Betamax because the quality is too low.

Part of the confusion arises from the fact that Betacam tapes are identical in size to Betamax tapes and can be used in Betamax machines, but at this point that the similarity ends. Betacam is a high quality format based apon the component video standard, unlike Betamax. Betacam was launched by Sony in 1982, and is a successful format.

EDIT: I should note I had a Betamax player, and I honestly couldn't tell the difference between the picture quality of it and a VHS player. I am no muppet.

 

[59031]

Quoting from this page. Amusingly an anti-Mac page (which I don't endorse).

http://spl.haxial.net/mac-fanatics/


EDIT: I should note I had a Betamax player, and I honestly couldn't tell the difference between the picture quality of it and a VHS player. I am no muppet.

These people are so seriously wrong, and it's coming from an anti-mac site to boot? That should tell you something. I mean they're so full of crap their eyes are brown.

 

[octoberdeath]

this could be the smartest thing i have ever heard. they should also do this for those boxed set dvds of television shows so people can just buy the dvds and not have to worry about figuring out how to put them on their iPods. i have already bought the first season of Lost and wouldn't mind having the dvds to show on large screens.