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iPods and Cameras?

To add to the pile...

I would love this feature. ATM I have an iPod mini (graduation gift) but there are no 3rd party attachments to enable me download pictures of my camera to my iPod. I've done traveling in jungles, week long back packing trips, among other places that I would love more capacity. I also shoot pictures for the school paper. Sporting events are a horrible place to be taking pictures, and than sorting them to save some room. You just want to take picture after picture and not worry about how much room is left. When you're done, dump them all on the mini that I always have with me, and keep going.

Besides, as digital camera become more common (And they will) people are going to need storage. easy storage. storage they already have. And unless the price goes up, adding this function isn't going to HURT Apple, now is it? As far as I understand this, if APple adds this functionality, people won't even know the iPod has it, unless one reads the manual.

~Tyler
~Earendil
 
Stay with Music...

I think the iPod should stay with what it does best....play muisc and maybe show pic's like the iPod Photo. Other than that why play with a winner.
 
I don't have an iPod and I keep looking for reasons to buy one, I can't in any way do music through earplugs and I have an MP3 headunit in my car, but if I could transfer from camera to iPod I would buy one in a second.
 
Wouldn't the same USB based bridge work to connect an iPod Shuffle to a big iPod?

Maybe a swap and Go version of the Autofill feature?
 
there is no owrry about it diluting the purity of the ipod, it can be used as a firewire harddrive now, i don;t see how the option of being able to plug in and transfer all the photos to the same port it uses now affects this at all, it seems stupid to be carrying around your ipod and having the swap memory cards in your camera, the way i see the ipod going is yes it's a music player, but also carries data of all formats, never carry a cd rom again, never carry your laptop to do a presentation, it's on the ipod, arrive plug in and go

personally i'd like to see cars stereos with just a slot for the ipod, get in the car, slot it in the fornt, choose any song, eject it as you leave, none of this leads and glove boxes

the real thing that i'm surpised that no one had done, is as it's a firewire hard drive, and firewire has enough bandwidth for a video signal, why not make a camcorder that has a slot you plug the ipod into, no tapes, no dvdrs and ready for instant edit and burning to dvd when you get home

i think in the long run, we'll see the ipod concept growing into your portable digital memory and music just being the first obvious thing you wanted to move around
 
Some HD based player do this.

There are a couple of HD based players that do this already, the notable ones are the iRiver link. Apart from the lack of iTunes compatability, it seems like a mighty fine player and fairly cheap too.

I still like my iPod though... ;)
 
daveway00 said:
And this is when the ipod craze will die.
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If they turn it into a does everything but nothing well jumble like the old Sony Clie's, then yes. In my opinion, the questions that should be asked about any feature added are these: Does it add a button? Does it add a menu? Does it add cost? Does it break the usage model?

But the beauty here is that this is a feature that could be added without changing anything... Everything's already there. I checked the Portal Player data sheets when the Belkin do-hickey came out and it was capable of acting as a USB host or a peripheral (what is now dubbed USB On-the-go, which I think is a stupid name... Firewire did everything so cleanly and USB is branching into a million different connector types and standards...). That should mean the chipset has always been capable of reading a USB mass storage device.

You don't need a button, you don't need a menu, all you need is a USB cable.

I really didn't want a color LCD iPod-- I was sure it would be the first step in the wrong direction, but if this were to get integrated, and they provided a way to view what you load and manipulate images onscreen (rotate 90, zoom and pan, etc), I'd be in.
 
piquet said:
there is no owrry about it diluting the purity of the ipod, it can be used as a firewire harddrive now, i don;t see how the option of being able to plug in and transfer all the photos to the same port it uses now affects this at all, it seems stupid to be carrying around your ipod and having the swap memory cards in your camera, the way i see the ipod going is yes it's a music player, but also carries data of all formats, never carry a cd rom again, never carry your laptop to do a presentation, it's on the ipod, arrive plug in and go
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I agree-- it keeps the usage model whole. For me it's not the number of pictures, although I can easily fill a card in a day on vacation, it's the video. My Fuji F700 takes 640x480 video, 30fps until it runs out of memory. I'd love to use it more, but it just fills the cards too fast.

personally i'd like to see cars stereos with just a slot for the ipod, get in the car, slot it in the fornt, choose any song, eject it as you leave, none of this leads and glove boxes
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Man-- I've been waiting for exactly this. Everyone talks about the elegance of their iPod interfaces, but I don't see it. If I have to dig into my glove compartment, plug in wires, drive, get to where I'm going, unplug wires an go it just doesn't seem elegant to me at all. Slot it into my car like a cassette tape, grab it when I go. That's the ticket.

[edit] Of course, Bluetooth would make this even better-- less parts to break. I'd be worried about over exercising the dock connector. If I could apply only power with a sturdier connector, it would be better...

the real thing that i'm surpised that no one had done, is as it's a firewire hard drive, and firewire has enough bandwidth for a video signal, why not make a camcorder that has a slot you plug the ipod into, no tapes, no dvdrs and ready for instant edit and burning to dvd when you get home.
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When I first saw the iSight-- that was my first thought: what a coup! Undercut the entire DV market with the nicest, most portable video camera ever and plenty of storage. Then, of course, it hit me that it wouldn't work all that well with a black and white screen and I doubted Apple would move to color. Now they have-- someone over there has to have thought of this...

Passes the test-- no buttons, no menus, no cost, holds to the usage model (at least for the iPod Photo)...
 
MacSlut said:
Ok, so if Person X has a camera with a 1GB CF card and wants to transfer its contents to a Bluetooth 2.0 enabled iPod, at what rate will the data transfer?

Oh, no...not that guy again...we're all doomed :eek:

Seriously though, I think this would be really cool if I had an Bluetooth Photo iPod and pictures could instantly transfer from my camera to the iPod. Does anybody know if it would be possible to make a Bluetooth CF card that would work in most CF based digital cameras? Or will this require some sort of adapter until if/when more cameras have Bluetooth?
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1 GB at 384 kBps will take about 45 minutes, but I don't think Bluetooth 2.0 will reach anywhere near those speeds in real life. Theres also the issue that 45 min. of transferring images over Bluetooth's radio transmitter will drain what ever battetry capacity Apple manages to squeeze into the iPod. Bluetooth 2.0 is more efficient then 1.0, but mostly when in little or no use, actually sending and receiving will still be a strain...
 
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
1 GB at 384 kBps will take about 45 minutes, but I don't think Bluetooth 2.0 will reach anywhere near those speeds in real life. Theres also the issue that 45 min. of transferring images over Bluetooth's radio transmitter will drain what ever battetry capacity Apple manages to squeeze into the iPod. Bluetooth 2.0 is more efficient then 1.0, but mostly when in little or no use, actually sending and receiving will still be a strain...
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My Sony video camera (PC 120) is bluetooth enabled, albeit in its first version, but the idea of downloading pictures via bluetooth never came to mind. It is OK to use for sending a picture via the phone but that is about it. You are correct: battery life can be a problem so my camera bluetooth is not enabled most of the time...

I admit it would be cool if ithe bluetooth transfer worked underwater in a casing. Then, I would not have to replace the memory stick during a dive or on the boat! :rolleyes:
 
Fender2112 said:
I have a feeling that we will soon see micro drives being used as the storage media for still and video cameras. When the iPod mini came out, my first thought was "Man that's small. Sure would be nice to put one in a camera."

With the right cable and software, you could connect an iPod to just about any firewire or USB camera. We might even see a battery powered firewire drive - something simple without all the bells and whistles of an iPod.

It's only a matter of time. :D
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There already micro drives for cameras, the trouble is, they can get hot very quickly because of the moving parts. There are 2 types of CF card for a reason, one is flash memory based, the other is the hard drive type.
 
CrackedButter said:
There are 2 types of CF card for a reason, one is flash memory based, the other is the hard drive type.
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Actually you are completely incorrect on this statement. There are 3 types of CF: CF Type I, CF Type II and CF I/O. All compact flash uses, well, flash, for memory - in other words, no moving parts - the format is solid state and non-volatile (ergo no battery required to retain data), so your comment on "hard drive" type is simply wrong. IBM does make a "MicroDrive" (CF+) card that has the same dimensions as a Type II CF card, but uses an actual hard drive construction rather than flash memory, thus is not considered true Flash memory.

Just wanted to clear up any misinformation that is out there! :cool:
 
Yaaay! It better not just be regular maintenance! I don't like getting excited for no reason at this hour of morning.
 
****** ho if this is just an iPod update. Flex a little, Apple. Give us an updated PowerMac. Heck, its got less ram than the powerBOOK when ordering w/o BTO.
 
Yup, here are details from Macnn.com:

. Apple also introduced the new iPod Camera Connector, due in late-March for $30. The optional accessory enables customers to connect their digital camera to iPod photo and import their photos into the iPod. "By simply connecting the iPod Camera Connector and a digital camera, customers can easily transfer digital images to their iPod photo."

Coolness.
 
mcmav37 said:
No, it doesn't have to be a CF slot, but what about being able to connect a cable from the dock connector to the USB slot on the camera instead of having to use the Belkin thing?
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- using a Belkin adapter (for memory cards or the camera USB cable) seems to yield transfer speeds ~ USB1 according to everything I have read.
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An iPod that could connect directly to a camera or memory card reader would be huge. HUGE. I currently own two iPods (2G & 3G) and use the Belkin media reader for photo transfer. The Belkin really does suck, and is only useful because there is no alternative, other than purchasing another iPod-like device that does this more robustly. The slow transfer is one issue (tends to take around 12 minutes for a 256MB card) but the power drain is the dealbreaker. One transfer (max two), and you're done using your iPod until you recharge. Plus there's no error message if it doesn't transfer correctly. Lost some gorgeous photos of Paris at night that way.

Having an iPod that could not only display my photos but also easily transfer them from a camera would be great. I realize there are other devices that basically do this, but it's not an iPod.

--D
 
SiliconAddict said:
Apple should have, and could have, done this 2 generations ago.
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Yes, because then they might have been able to sell a few iPods, and maybe that would have allowed their stagnant stock to go up in value. If only... :rolleyes:
 
New camera connector signals new direction?

Typolad said:
"By simply connecting the iPod Camera Connector and a digital camera, customers can easily transfer digital images to their iPod photo." [/i]
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This is significant, I think, not because it turns the iPod into a "must-have" digital camera accessory... I'm assuming iPod still can't actually display the photos until they've been uploaded and processed by iPhoto.
Rather, it's significant because this is the first non-computer appliance that the iPod has been integrated with (except for add-on/3rd-party products). Could this be the start of a trend? Is integration with DV camcorders coming soon? How about integration with audio recording devices, such as the rumored Asteroid midi box? The possibilities are almost endless, but this could be the first sign of a massive expansion of iPod capabilities.
 
Typolad said:
Yup, here are details from Macnn.com:

. Apple also introduced the new iPod Camera Connector, due in late-March for $30. The optional accessory enables customers to connect their digital camera to iPod photo and import their photos into the iPod. "By simply connecting the iPod Camera Connector and a digital camera, customers can easily transfer digital images to their iPod photo."
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Much sweetness. Usually the features in an iPod line stay stagnant until the next gen. Getting new features. Very nice.
 
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