iPods, Notebooks, and... iMacs before the Holidays?
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golfnut1996
macrumors newbie
That won't happen. That would be shooting themselves in the foot. The whole idea of the 13.3" screen is that its small and portable, and costs less. If you want the larger screen/horsepower, then they want you to go to the MBP. It's all about marketing. If they had a 15" MB, they would sell less of the MBP's.
mtrctyjoe
macrumors 6502
Disagree Completely... then they need to drop the price of the MBP (that I agree might be stupid)..... people should not be forced to buy a high powered machine just to get some more real-estate on the screen.
Most people only need MB Power... and many of those people would like a screen bigger then 13 inches.... That would NOT be shooting themsleves in the FOOT.. that would be increasing share holder value.
Looking deep into the chrystal ball.....
Why keep the MBP and MB as two separate product lines?
What is the difference? Dedicated graphics, an expresscard slot and the screen size AFAIK. Most other specifications are the same (CPU, RAM, WiFi, etc).
Why not just merge the two lines, it should be cheaper for apple to handle one line of notebooks and differentiate by size instead.
Apple will bring out a sub-notebook (the iMove) to compete with Asus Eee etc. It will be priced at $299. The same components, without the screen, will be available in the new Mac Micro that will retail for $249. Hopefully they will not use the Atom processor (even though the new dual-core Atom should be more performant), that would be a step down from the current Mini performance. The Micro will replace AppleTV. Both will have a docking station for the iPod.
The new Mini and the 13" MB will use the same components. Redesigned cases, dual core, dedicated graphics, no superdrive or combo-drive, easily exchangable harddisk. Starting price $799 for MB and $499 for Mini.
The next step up is the 15" MB. Dual core, with BTO quad core. With superdrive, SDD BTO, easily exchangable harddisk, expresscard. Starting price $1299.
The 17" MBP will be dropped.
The standard iMac will be having a quad BTO for the 24". Price from $999.
The will also be an iMac Nano. The 17" model will be back again with the specifications of the Mini and 13" MB. Price $699. The perfect "kitchen computer".
Why keep the MBP and MB as two separate product lines?
What is the difference? Dedicated graphics, an expresscard slot and the screen size AFAIK. Most other specifications are the same (CPU, RAM, WiFi, etc).
Why not just merge the two lines, it should be cheaper for apple to handle one line of notebooks and differentiate by size instead.
Apple will bring out a sub-notebook (the iMove) to compete with Asus Eee etc. It will be priced at $299. The same components, without the screen, will be available in the new Mac Micro that will retail for $249. Hopefully they will not use the Atom processor (even though the new dual-core Atom should be more performant), that would be a step down from the current Mini performance. The Micro will replace AppleTV. Both will have a docking station for the iPod.
The new Mini and the 13" MB will use the same components. Redesigned cases, dual core, dedicated graphics, no superdrive or combo-drive, easily exchangable harddisk. Starting price $799 for MB and $499 for Mini.
The next step up is the 15" MB. Dual core, with BTO quad core. With superdrive, SDD BTO, easily exchangable harddisk, expresscard. Starting price $1299.
The 17" MBP will be dropped.
The standard iMac will be having a quad BTO for the 24". Price from $999.
The will also be an iMac Nano. The 17" model will be back again with the specifications of the Mini and 13" MB. Price $699. The perfect "kitchen computer".
karmachrome
macrumors member
I think you'll find the next gen MB with only slightly less chutpah than the current MBP. The machine pros used 2-3 years ago plods along when simply loading your typical webpage anymore.
I simply want a Macbook that doesn't look like a sub-
Standard machine. I already own an iBook and am tired of that plastic....smell....karmachrome
macrumors member
The Tall One
macrumors regular
Pro
Three words: Update Macpro NOW.
Three words: Update Macpro NOW.
Buschmaster
macrumors 65816
"Settling"?It kind of cracks me up when I see people requesting pro features in a consumer desktop. Why would someone who settles for an iMac need 4 cores? Is that to make Safari go faster? If you need 4 cores, then you probably also need hard drive and ram expansion and better video card options. Wait! Apple already has a computer with that! It's called a Macpro. You should buy one of those if you really need the power and then you'd have 8 cores for Safari!
Same as those of you who are requesting shiny aluminum Macbooks. Is that because you can't afford the Macbook Pro... but want to have the look of one?
Since when is buying an iMac "settling"?
Clearly anyone who doesn't own a Mac Pro, oops, sorry... Macpro is a poor son of a bitch who only uses Safari. You caught us.
Quote:
Originally Posted by swingerofbirch View Post
Come on Al MacBook! This is like watching a very long birth labor.
Agreed, I'm new to mac and this is just rediculas, BULL cHT
Originally Posted by swingerofbirch View Post
Come on Al MacBook! This is like watching a very long birth labor.
Agreed, I'm new to mac and this is just rediculas, BULL cHT
SilverHandprint
macrumors newbie
Any luck with a Blu-Ray option this time around? That's the main thing that's keeping me from getting a 24" iMac.
It'd be nice if they made the screen HD with an LED backlight too!
It'd be nice if they made the screen HD with an LED backlight too!
I really really hope that Apple will not change the keyboard on the Macbook Pro. I really like the current keyboard and don't like the Macbook and Air Keyboard. Even worse would be if they changed the color to black. Well - we will see. I do have to buy Macbook Pros because I cannot stand the glossy screens. Macbook Pros are the only option left (beside a Mini or Mac Pro with an external display)
Agreed this is not the approach mac should take, maybe reducing the space of each key on the current mbp is the better way to go. DAng it mac i get so upset.
polar-blair
macrumors regular
All these rumors are starting to drive me crazy. I really need a laptop (MBP) cause our college that i have just joined uses mac pro G5's (i think maybe G4's forgot to check) but there doing my nut and they still run Tiger, what's up with that! Going from using an iMac AL at home then using old macs is difficult, No spaces! No right click mighty mouse! No scroll on the mighty mouse! No quick preview, time machine! its hard going back the old way when you love the new way.
Thats why I need a laptop, quick and waiting for a new one that might/might not come is really hard. Please apple enlighten us soon!
Thats why I need a laptop, quick and waiting for a new one that might/might not come is really hard. Please apple enlighten us soon!
What evidence do you have to support that unlikely statement!?
Of course, it's possible... anything is. But to do that would be ridiculous. What reason could there be for it??
Oh, tell me about it!
So many unis use old macs, its pretty annoying. My department in the one I'm about to join only uses PCs apart from one mac in a studio, I think, but I don't think I saw a single intel mac on all the uni open days I've been on, and most were probably before G5. Not that they're bad machines, you'd just expect to see more up to date ones around!
So a good MBP is a must... of course the current MBPs are very nice but an update would be great!
This Rumor Is on CNN But Not MacWorld
A little while ago when Arn retired from medicine, he wrote an uncharacteristically brash post on his personal blog about how he used a classic business judo technique to propel MacRumors into the stratosphere. He started publishing what the mainstream Mac publications didn't -- rumors.
But here's the funny thing. Now that Apple is a media darling, even mainstream newspapers publish Mac rumors, but mainstream Mac publications like MacWorld still don't. That is a major head-scratcher.
I hope someday Mac Rumors becomes a Harvard Business School case study. Arn's only remaining hurdle is to better monetize his huge audience. I think he'll need to hire his own salespeople.
Anyway, thank you Arn for a great daily read.
A little while ago when Arn retired from medicine, he wrote an uncharacteristically brash post on his personal blog about how he used a classic business judo technique to propel MacRumors into the stratosphere. He started publishing what the mainstream Mac publications didn't -- rumors.
But here's the funny thing. Now that Apple is a media darling, even mainstream newspapers publish Mac rumors, but mainstream Mac publications like MacWorld still don't. That is a major head-scratcher.
I hope someday Mac Rumors becomes a Harvard Business School case study. Arn's only remaining hurdle is to better monetize his huge audience. I think he'll need to hire his own salespeople.
Anyway, thank you Arn for a great daily read.
derryquinn
macrumors 6502
Dudes just thinking.... i bet the new notebooks will hae the same left/right one button clicky thing as the mighty mouse...anyone else think so?
anthonymoody
macrumors 68040
too lazy to read through the whole thread, so sorry if this has already been mentioned, but wrt the imacs getting a bump, apple may not have a choice. as intel shifts production they simply may not have enough remaining production of 'old' chips to satisfy apple's demand. this is what drove one of the recent macbook/mbp bumps.
one of the very lovely benefits of the switch to intel.
one of the very lovely benefits of the switch to intel.
STOP THE PRESS... HERE IT GOES... IS PATENTED BY APPLE:
Apple details next-gen multi-touch techniques for tablet Macs
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...n_multi_touch_techniques_for_tablet_macs.html
Apple details next-gen multi-touch techniques for tablet Macs
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...n_multi_touch_techniques_for_tablet_macs.html
karmachrome
macrumors member
Tablet Macs
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...n_multi_touch_techniques_for_tablet_macs.html
(I'm a little concerned about the arthritic hand model)
Edit: Beat me to it!!
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...n_multi_touch_techniques_for_tablet_macs.html
(I'm a little concerned about the arthritic hand model)
Edit: Beat me to it!!
KindredMAC
macrumors 6502a
Wake me when the Mac Pro gets an update that DOESN'T consist solely of a processor bump and when the iMac can span TWO additional monitors into extended desktop without some gadget box like MacWorld reviewed on their podcast a couple weeks ago.
I want a redesigned case and Blu-Ray burning capabilities in my next Mac Pro.
Ok..... good night Gracie......
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I want a redesigned case and Blu-Ray burning capabilities in my next Mac Pro.
Ok..... good night Gracie......
ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.................
Tablets
What Apple could do is make what would amount to a large iPod Touch, with more functionality. I would be in the market for one of these. I am looking for something smaller than a regular notebook, but not a PDA. Easy to take along on trips for checking email and putting pictures on, stuff like that. I am going to wait a bit more for one of these but if it doesn't come out probably get an iMac and keep waiting.
I would like to see a device like this maybe have a 9-10.5 inch screen and be light, have better battery life than a laptop and more features than the touch. No keyboard or anything like that, all touch screen. Sort of a mix of the Macbook Air and the iPod Touch.
What Apple could do is make what would amount to a large iPod Touch, with more functionality. I would be in the market for one of these. I am looking for something smaller than a regular notebook, but not a PDA. Easy to take along on trips for checking email and putting pictures on, stuff like that. I am going to wait a bit more for one of these but if it doesn't come out probably get an iMac and keep waiting.
I would like to see a device like this maybe have a 9-10.5 inch screen and be light, have better battery life than a laptop and more features than the touch. No keyboard or anything like that, all touch screen. Sort of a mix of the Macbook Air and the iPod Touch.
If I may "throw my hat into the ring" here....
After all the rumors I've read, I'm starting to get this "big picture" of what the update scenario might be:
I can see Apple doing an update "across the board" primarily because they'll release new Cinema displays with HDCP video connectors on them. That means none of the current models of Macs will be able to connect to them. Revising the Macbook and Macbook Pro notebooks with newer video chipsets and HDCP connectors for external displays means they'd need to do at least a slight case redesign anyway, to accommodate the different size holes needed for the connector change. So they may as well go "all out" and give us something totally new and fresh looking while they're at it, there. Obviously, newer mobile CPU choices are available now, as well, so I'm sure we'll see those put to use too.
In the case of the Mac Pro, a revision will probably mainly consist of offering Blu-Ray drives in the machines (again, to pair nicely with native HD resolution Cinema displays), and new video card offerings (maybe the new ATI 4850/4870 they claim they've got coming soon for Mac?).
In the case of the iMac, it might be possible to attach a newer, HDCP connector enabled Cinema display to existing models as a 2nd. display option, by simply selling a required adapter cable/box that plugs into the "mini DVI" connection they've already got on the sides of them. That means they won't be as pressed to quickly update/refresh them ... and a later refresh could be as easy as a speed-bump.
When you look at it this way, it doesn't really seem like Apple's "outpacing themselves" too badly with this whole update. They always do the iPod refreshes around the time-frame predicted for this new updates, too - so that may well have been designed and ready a long time ago.... It can't be that hard to change around the shape of the Nano casing and select a different format of LCD screen for it each year.
After all the rumors I've read, I'm starting to get this "big picture" of what the update scenario might be:
I can see Apple doing an update "across the board" primarily because they'll release new Cinema displays with HDCP video connectors on them. That means none of the current models of Macs will be able to connect to them. Revising the Macbook and Macbook Pro notebooks with newer video chipsets and HDCP connectors for external displays means they'd need to do at least a slight case redesign anyway, to accommodate the different size holes needed for the connector change. So they may as well go "all out" and give us something totally new and fresh looking while they're at it, there. Obviously, newer mobile CPU choices are available now, as well, so I'm sure we'll see those put to use too.
In the case of the Mac Pro, a revision will probably mainly consist of offering Blu-Ray drives in the machines (again, to pair nicely with native HD resolution Cinema displays), and new video card offerings (maybe the new ATI 4850/4870 they claim they've got coming soon for Mac?).
In the case of the iMac, it might be possible to attach a newer, HDCP connector enabled Cinema display to existing models as a 2nd. display option, by simply selling a required adapter cable/box that plugs into the "mini DVI" connection they've already got on the sides of them. That means they won't be as pressed to quickly update/refresh them ... and a later refresh could be as easy as a speed-bump.
When you look at it this way, it doesn't really seem like Apple's "outpacing themselves" too badly with this whole update. They always do the iPod refreshes around the time-frame predicted for this new updates, too - so that may well have been designed and ready a long time ago.... It can't be that hard to change around the shape of the Nano casing and select a different format of LCD screen for it each year.