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iPods most certainly do suck, it's just that the alternatives suck even harder.
 
iMeowbot said:
iPods most certainly do suck, it's just that the alternatives suck even harder.
Are you saying that they break easily or that they are not feature-heavy?
 
kondspi said:
Are you saying that they break easily or that they are not feature-heavy?
They are expensive and fragile and use weird proprietary connectors and use wimpy batteries that are a pain to replace and tie you to a buggy host program if you want to use all the features. And despite that, they are the best things going in their class. That's sad.
 
When you mass produce a product there are sure to be a few lemons. Yes, SOME iPods suck. Take it back to the store and get them to fix or replace it for you. Done.

My wife and I have 6 iPods in our house - from the 5GB 1st gen to the 60 GB video. Other than an initial lemon 60 GB (bad screen) not one of them have ever given us any trouble. Battery dies, i replace it myself for $20 - not a big deal.

A coworker recently got one of the new Sansa's - or should I say 3 Sansa's. The headphone jacks on the first 2 shorted out after a week of use. He doesn't like the interface or the controls. He was one of those "iPods are so expensive," sort of guys. Now he gets it and will be exchanging the Sansa for an iPod.
 
p0intblank said:
I really hate it when people name their threads with such childish statements. You sound real intelligent saying that the iPods "SUCK." :rolleyes: If you want real help, then at least sound somewhat smart.

I cannot stand ignorance.

Give this guy a break FFS. The headline may grab your attention but it's backed up fine by the explanation that follows. :rolleyes:

speakerwizard said:
Hard drives and batteries suck! it is actually easier than youd think to replace either component.

Absolutely. Try replacing the battery yourself. You can buy the tools and the battery (try eBay) for a lot less than buying a new iPod and it's really not that difficult. Try that first and see how you go.

And to be honest, even though it's often the components, i.e. battery, hard drive etc, that go first, they're still specified parts and they do go wrong a lot more than they should. I've had a 20GB 3G and a 6GB mini go bad because of duff hard drives (the microdrives on the mini were appallingly unreliable). Both were 14 months old and just out of warranty. very annoying.
 
iMeowbot said:
They are expensive and fragile and use weird proprietary connectors and use wimpy batteries that are a pain to replace and tie you to a buggy host program if you want to use all the features. And despite that, they are the best things going in their class. That's sad.

WOW. It must really hurt going through life with a gun pressed against your head. Try this on for size, if you don't like the iPod, don't freak'n buy one. But for cripes sake, quit your damn crying.
 
TEG said:
Don't buy a new one, you can trade it in for a replacement for $60 at any Apple Store.
TEG

IS THIS true? so I, in canada, could go to the Toronto store and trade in ANY broken ipod and get it replaced for 60$? such as my broken ipod mini?
 
KevKaos said:
WOW. It must really hurt going through life with a gun pressed against your head. Try this on for size, if you don't like the iPod, don't freak'n buy one. But for cripes sake, quit your damn crying.
Is it so painful to see criticisms of Apple products that you really need to wish them away? Perspective, please. Perspective.
 
iMeowbot said:
Is it so painful to see criticisms of Apple products that you really need to wish them away? Perspective, please. Perspective.
No, not at all. I don't own a Mac (yet), I use a PC. I just got an iPod for the first time and yeah, I have had problems with it but with the help of some good people on this site and Applecare, things are running smooth. I just get tired of hearing crybabies running around saying "WAAAAAA iPods suck." Who do you think you are going convert? You think someone like me is going to read your tripe and suddenly say "Oh wow, they're right". And even if someone did convert because of what you've said, what did you get out of it. Maybe you get a charge out being the one with all the answers? I have never understood why there is this whole PC vs Mac issue anyway. Feels like we are on some big playground in grade school.
 
KevKaos said:
I just get tired of hearing crybabies running around saying "WAAAAAA iPods suck." Who do you think you are going convert? You think someone like me is going to read your tripe and suddenly say "Oh wow, they're right". And even if someone did convert because of what you've said, what did you get out of it. Maybe you get a charge out being the one with all the answers? I have never understood why there is this whole PC vs Mac issue anyway. Feels like we are on some big playground in grade school.

Clearly you've missed the point of this thread:

MacVM said:
By the way, "ipods suck" was a way of me expressing my frustration, perhaps inadequately, but are you really making a fuss over that?

It's not about trying to convert anyone. It's not about saying Macs or PCs are better. The OP was just venting frustration. Having had ipods go before I know exactly how he feels. Who knows, maybe you'll get stung the same way once you've had your iPod a while, but hopefully not. My point is, get off your high horse.
 
AlBDamned said:
Clearly you've missed the point of this thread:



It's not about trying to convert anyone. It's not about saying Macs or PCs are better. The OP was just venting frustration. Having had ipods go before I know exactly how he feels. Who knows, maybe you'll get stung the same way once you've had your iPod a while, but hopefully not. The point is, get off your high horse.


For your information, if you would choose to get off your big high horse to read it, I was not responding to the original poster. I was responding to the poster who picked up ont the rant, but
I do stand corrected. Not trying to convert, CHECK just being a cry-baby, DOUBLE CHECK.
Thanks for the clarification. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

BTW, when in doubt, how you go back and read the post and see who is being quoted and why.
 
... Also, they say you should "exercise" your battery. That means, run the battery COMPLETELY down once a week, and then fully charge it before you use it again.
 
dopey220 said:
... Also, they say you should "exercise" your battery. That means, run the battery COMPLETELY down once a week, and then fully charge it before you use it again.

Ah, maybe that's why my battery is still ok with my 1.5 year old battery - I often forget to reload it... :rolleyes:

But that sounds like some technique from the age of the first cell-phones, I thought all batteries nowadays were supposed to avoid the ghost-memory effect. (Well, they do catch fire though).
 
My iPod's hard drive died today after 15 months of use. I did accidentally disconnect it a few times when it said "do not disconnect," but I am disappointed.

EDIT - it is now showing intermittent signs of life, but still very flaky. The hard drive is clunking in odd fashion, and the sad iPod icon is showing more often than the menu. Maybe a restore will help, but I'm not getting my hopes up too high.
 
MacVM said:
Thank you for all of the helpful suggestions, guys, I really appreciate it. Unfortunately, there aren't any Apple stores in my state to get help from the Genius bar, and I don't know how soon I can get to one in the next state over. Should I be looking to replace the battery then?

By the way, "ipods suck" was a way of me expressing my frustration, perhaps inadequately, but are you really making a fuss over that?

yeah, people overreact here, but it's to be expected.

people who care enough about a company to come read about and discuss that company are probably going to get riled up if somebody disses their flagship product.

anyway, one idea to add: drain the battery completely. i mean keep turning it on even after you think the battery is dead, until the point where it doesn't show any signs of life at all. then charge it all the way up, and run it all the way down again. after a few cycles of this you can "erase the memory" in the battery...so to speak
 
stagecustom said:
IS THIS true? so I, in canada, could go to the Toronto store and trade in ANY broken ipod and get it replaced for 60$? such as my broken ipod mini?

In Canada it is probably $80, but yes, it should work there as well. When I get paid next, I'm thinking of getting my 3G replaced because the Battery only lasts about 2 hours, and it quite dirty (due to the ridges around the buttons.)

TEG
 
amin said:
My iPod's hard drive died today after 15 months of use. I did accidentally disconnect it a few times when it said "do not disconnect," but I am disappointed.

EDIT - it is now showing intermittent signs of life, but still very flaky. The hard drive is clunking in odd fashion, and the sad iPod icon is showing more often than the menu. Maybe a restore will help, but I'm not getting my hopes up too high.

A buddy of mne has the same problem. With the price of drives dropping, you may be able to find someplace to put a new drive in for you at a decent price. Better yet, go to the Apple store in Towson with $60 in hand and see if they let you trade it in for a new one. If so, please report back to us.
 
iMeowbot said:
They are expensive and fragile and use weird proprietary connectors and use wimpy batteries that are a pain to replace and tie you to a buggy host program if you want to use all the features. And despite that, they are the best things going in their class. That's sad.

Hmmm, I thought that iTunes was pretty feature laden and solid myself. The ONLY problem I've had with it is that it doesn't handle ripping bad disks very well. The cancel button is a placebo device when it gets stuck ripping a track with a scratch on it and I have to hard stop the program or sometimes even reboot the computer. Can't seem to select a single track to rip either, although I can select what I want once the process is done.
 
Check to see if your computer is going into sleep mode. If it powers off, it may not charge. I had the same issue with mine a while back. And that is what was happening. I'm not sure if this changed with the new version of iTunes but it works fine now.
 
iVersa said:
Well, Iv'e owned three different types of ipod in my time, and all 3 were awesome. Certainly none of them sucked. Maybe yours does, but your generalisation is ridiculous

Two different ones for me and the only complaint has been the short battery powered operation time. The battery Apple replaced my original with has nearly twice the life and I'm quite happy with it now. I'll probably get one of the much smaller solid state style versions after Christmas.
 
stuartluff said:
Ok. First of all ipods dont display a triangle over the battery icon if the battery is low/empty etc. Its obviously telling you there is something wrong with the battery. If it was just a flat battery the icon would go red and would diminish accordingly.

Not to be bringin up old ****, but it actually does display a triangle over the battery icon when it's too low to start up, which would've been his problem. just thought i would clear up the fact that it isn't some random issue, it's always there. Hasn't anyone ever let their iPod completely drain and then try to start it up?

-JE
 

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JasonElise1983 said:
Not to be bringin up old ****, but it actually does display a triangle over the battery icon when it's too low to start up, which would've been his problem. just thought i would clear up the fact that it isn't some random issue, it's always there. Hasn't anyone ever let their iPod completely drain and then try to start it up?

-JE

Mine stays off when its completely drained. And the icon turns red and diminishes with no triangle to be seen. :confused:
 
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