Iris Pro 6200 performance

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  1. andeify macrumors 6502

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    What can we expect from the Iris Pro 6200 (Broadwell), performance wise? How will it compare to the Iris Pro 5200? Or is it too early to tell?
     
  2. Bending Pixels macrumors 65816

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    It'll be a thousand times faster. Really....trust me.

    Seriously...since no spec's have been released, it's kinda early to tell.
     
  3. dusk007 macrumors 68040

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    Specs have been released and Intel has lined out expected performance gains.
    It will be 48 instead of 40 EUs. Ergo not much more.
    The new Gen8 architecture which should be fairly similar and not a big departure of any kind.
    Intel mentioned an about 40% performance increase. 20%pts more execution units and 20%pts from architecture and clock rate.

    This should put it slightly above the 750M even in games. And significantly above in all things it already draws even with Apple's underclocked 750M.
     
  4. Samuelsan2001 macrumors 603

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    As above except

    Well the intel claims for the iris pro 5200 were pretty hot but I don't think it really lived up to it, the same may happen with the 6200.
     
  5. Freyqq macrumors 68040

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    It will probably beat out the 650M/750M...finally. That will be sufficient cause for Apple to drop dGPUs all together in laptops. It definitely will not beat an 850M, and I'm sure nvidia will have a 950M ready to go by the time the 6200 is released.
     
  6. chrizzz09 macrumors regular

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    Intel said it will be around 40% faster then the 5200 one , so you can expect a 20% performance boost in real life.
     
  7. VanillaCracker macrumors 68030

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    It'll be such a sad day knowing that the 850M is in full swing, more efficient than the current 750M, and that apple may still ditch the dGPU altogether.
     
  8. iKrivetko macrumors 6502a

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    I'm much more interested in what Skylake will have to offer.
     
  9. andeify thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I think they will still keep it as an option for quite some time
     
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    kwokaaron macrumors 6502a

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    Even if they do try to drop dGPU, I believe they will still keep it as a CTO option.
     
  11. Brian Y macrumors 68040

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    Yep, there are some tasks for which integrated GPUs are still not up to the task.

    That said, Iris Pro is actually really powerful. The difference between it and the HD4000 from a couple of years ago is huge.
     
  12. blooperz macrumors 6502

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    Not really fair to compare the 6200 to the 750m...one is brand new the other is incredibly old (in computer standards)... thats like saying the 750m is better than hd3000 =p. The 6200 won't be better in games than whatever they replace the 750m with, that much is certain.
     
  13. VanillaCracker macrumors 68030

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    Yeah it really isn't fair at all. Also, the 750M is basically the 650M :rolleyes:. I just really want to see them update to the 850m or 860m. That way I don't feel like I'm completely wasting my money buying the dGPU version, with such a little performance gap.
     
  14. dusk007 macrumors 68040

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    The thing is Apple will probably compare it to the 750M when they drop the dGPU. Why else hasn't there been an update to the 850M yet. They upgraded the CPU while the 850M was already available in quantity. The 850M is a lot better but by the time a Broadwell 15" comes out there probably will already be a 950M 20nm Maxwell GPU. To me it still looks like Apple will say 6200 is sufficient and faster than last years model. Maybe they shrink the PCB and slim down the MBP some more while they are at it.
     
  15. VanillaCracker macrumors 68030

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    Yeah that's all very true and an extremely viable outcome - one I personally think will happen. Hopefully they do realize that some people require a dGPU though and keep it as a BTO
     
  16. andeify thread starter macrumors 6502

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    If the integrated GPU can keep the system running smooth then id be happy, but a discreet option would be good for the gamers out there.
     
  17. cjmillsnun macrumors 68020

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    Why?

    You're talking about a completely different logic board design to accommodate a dGPU for a minimal amount of sales, as well as not ordering the dGPUs in bulk. To make it viable it has to be a SKU.

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    BTO is not a viable option when a dGPU requires a different logic board and ordering small numbers of GPUs.

    Apple is in it for the money, they have to produce a certain number to get unit costs down to keep their margins up.

    They can get away with it for a speed bumped CPU because it'll fit on the same board.

    It's the same reason why the new Mac mini is dual core only.
     
  18. blooperz macrumors 6502

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    I wouldn't count on apple dropping the dGPU any time soon...doing that will just narrow the gap and give people one less reason to step up to the 15 inch from the 13 inch....apple cares about $$$...especially when they get away with charging a premium on a low grade dGPU like the 750m
     
  19. andeify thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Do you have a link to this?
     
  20. rekhyt macrumors 65816

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    Agreed.

    Please.
     
  21. MartinAppleGuy macrumors 68020

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    On Cinebench in Windows, the Iris Pro 5200 gets 44fps, with the new 6200 getting 46fps. My 750m in my iMac on Windows 10 with the Nvidia Drivers installed gets 72fps (see one of my threads for pics).
     
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    You have successfully raised a dead thread back to life; you are now the Necromancer.
     
  23. MartinAppleGuy macrumors 68020

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    Just noticed, but it adds to it in the way of how Intel quotes such advances and they didn't deliver.
     

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