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iRobot Wants to Sell Mapping Data Collected by Roomba Vacuums to a Tech Company Like Apple

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iRobot CEO Colin Angle today told Reuters that he hopes indoor mapping data collected by Roomba automatic vacuum cleaning machines can be sold to a company like Amazon, Apple, or Google in the near future.

iRobot's latest line of 900-series Roomba vacuums use simultaneous localization and mapping (SLAM) technology to map rooms while they clean, memorizing room layout and the location of furniture. Angle believes that mapping data collected by the Roomba could be used to make other in-home smart devices like lighting, thermostats, and security cameras smarter.


"There's an entire ecosystem of things and services that the smart home can deliver once you have a rich map of the home that the user has allowed to be shared," said Angle.

Guy Hoffman, a robotics professor at Cornell University, told Reuters that the kind of spatial mapping technology iRobot can deliver has the potential to be a "major breakthrough" for smart homes.
Right now, smart home devices operate "like a tourist in New York who never leaves the subway," said Hoffman. "There is some information about the city, but the tourist is missing a lot of context for what's happening outside of the stations."
Angle believes that iRobot could reach a deal to sell its maps data to "one or more" of the "Big Three" (Amazon, Apple, and Google) in the next couple of years, but cheaper technology from competing companies and privacy concerns could potentially halt the company's plans. Angle says iRobot will not sell room data without customer permission, but he believes most people will give consent to access smart home functions.

Indoor home mapping has the potential to be valuable to companies like Apple, especially with Apple poised to release its augmented reality platform with iOS 11, but it's unclear if Apple would be interested in or need such data. Functionality built into Apple's own upcoming devices like the iPhone 8 could potentially allow for in-home maps that could bolster smart home devices if rumors of enhanced augmented reality features are true.

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Szarky

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I got to be honest, I don’t think my Roomba keeps a map of my house or has mapped it very well. I once told it to dock right after it started and it took nearly 30 minutes to find the dock.
I hated our Roomba. It was infuriating watching it randomly zig zag trying to clean a room. It would miss areas and over clean others. So glad we returned it (Costco) and got a Neato. Such a more effecient device. Would never buy a Roomba again. It wasn't even one of the cheaper models, can't remember the model name/number but for sure at a min. the middle tier.
 
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macduke

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We have the Roomba 850 or 860. It doesn't map our house, but does a decent job and we like it. We just don't care for the diagonal lines it makes on the carpet since it doesn't map the house. Also it will sometimes miss a spot. My wife and I have talked about getting the newer model that maps our house for the upstairs, and then put the old one downstairs. We will no longer be considering purchasing the newer model at any point in the future. I know Anker makes one, but I don't know how smart it is. I'm sure some other company makes them as well. I don't want my house data to be sold to Google or anyone. That is not their information to sell! That is my information!! I know it says they won't sell it without permission, but I don't trust them. I didn't even know they were storing this info or uploading it somewhere. They'll probably also incentivize people by only allowing certain functionality with it disabled.
 
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Macyourdayy

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Interesting to know that the Roomba has no idea or memory of where it is or where it's been. I tried an expensive Neeto and it was also appalling and infuriating. Totally clueless, and performed the way a previous poster described their Roomba. It took longer to unjam and/or reset that heap of crap than cleaning everything myself.
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I don't have a Roomba but if I did I wouldn't be letting it share a map of my house layout to anyone. I really do like some of my technology to stay stupid.
And these things are definitely stupid. They probably know where the family jewels are though.
 
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A company has the ability to collect data from a device that a consumer agreed to a liscence to use - the company can do what they want with the data. Does it have a good money making potential? Sure. Will it backfire? Probably. Would a different political environment affect iRobots decision? I seriously doubt it.
 
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I hated our Roomba. It was infuriating watching it randomly zig zag trying to clean a room. It would miss areas and over clean others. So glad we returned it (Costco) and got a Neato. Such a more effecient device. Would never buy a Roomba again. It wasn't even one of the cheaper models, can't remember the model name/number but for sure at a min. the middle tier.


I think it mine does a good job cleaning but it is very random and goes back and forth between rooms. Does a diagonal line in one room, goes to the next, circles around for a bit then goes back to the original room. I think it is purely random, no real mapping of layout.
 
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I think it mine does a good job cleaning but it is very random and goes back and forth between rooms. Does a diagonal line in one room, goes to the next, circles around for a bit then goes back to the original room. I think it is purely random, no real mapping of layout.

Are these things noisy? It would drive me crazy if it was cleaning while I was trying to watch TV or something. Or can you schedule specific cleaning times for it?
The only thing I know about these devices was the hilarious post I read from the guy that woke up to his roomba cleaning up after his puppy that "had an accident" and the roomba diligently cleaned it up in the middle of the night. LOL
 
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Are these things noisy? It would drive me crazy if it was cleaning while I was trying to watch TV or something. Or can you schedule specific cleaning times for it?
The only thing I know about these devices was the hilarious post I read from the guy that woke up to his roomba cleaning up after his puppy that "had an accident" and the roomba diligently cleaned it up in the middle of the night. LOL


Yes they are a little noisy, but you can program it for different times every day. I program it for the same time while I am at work everyday. Then early morning on the weekends. If you have a pet. I don’t have pets, but if you do and it leaves a surprise on the floor I bet this could make a huge mess.
 
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Yes they are a little noisy, but you can program it for different times every day. I program it for the same time while I am at work everyday. Then early morning on the weekends. If you have a pet. I don’t have pets, but if you do and it leaves a surprise on the floor I bet this could make a huge mess.
Well, after reading this, I wouldn't buy one if I had a dog. But I got a good chuckle out of it.
https://thenextweb.com/shareables/2...ts-even-worse-than-you-imagine/#.tnw_a2VYnETW

Here's a link to the direct posting/review:
https://www.facebook.com/jesse.newton.37/posts/776177951574
 
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4jasontv

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I know Anker makes one, but I don't know how smart it is.

For what it's worth, almost everything that Anker makes is solid. I can't say how smart their vacuum is, but their bluetooth devices are a lot better than some other more expensive brands. Their robot gets pretty decent reviews (88% 4 stars+, 73% 5 stars). The biggest issue seems to be that they don't support replacing the battery. At $200 its hard to say how bad of a deal that is (except for the enviromenent).

For those of you who don't know, Anker is also the brand Eufy. Eufy is where Anker seems to be releasing their home goods (lamps, humidifiers, etc.).

I think their customer service is fairly top notch too. Had one item fail and they replaced it without neededing the old one sent back. I find it weird that they don't brand their vacuum with the Anker badge, but I guess they want to expand their portfolio without looking so diverse. If any of you have never used their stuff before I encourage you to try them (if you need something they make). If you hate Amazon, but have no issues with Walmart, then you are in luck because (at least in my area) Walmart now sells Anker products.
 
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Nemesis90

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How many people will turn down the inevitable Google or Amazon in-home robotic assistant that cleans, secures your home while you're away, feeds your pets, etc etc for the low low price of cataloging everything in your home, monitoring everything you do, and selling to you 24/7?
 
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LDNA

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Something tells me Apple doesn't want to map my lounge room for Apple Maps...

Roomba is over. Irrelevant :eek:
 
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krewger

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One more brand I don't need in my life. Ethically I have an issue with people attempting to collect data from devices I own to resell to others when it's not for my direct benefit. I returned a smart tv once because once I got it home it said it would monitor what I watched to feed back for advertisers with no way to turn it off. There is no need to know the layout of my house, and a brand needlessly capturing data to regurgitate for profit is something that will stop me from buying the product.
 
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QquegChristian

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This is hilarious and pathetic. As if there's any actual value in this data! The only buyer that could use this data would be a competing robot vacuum company.

ARkit will blow this data out of the water with real time mapping of rooms, floor to ceiling, as you are using whatever you'd very rarely need this data for... like the one time you play with a new IKEA furniture ordering app or something.
 
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If I would be providing data they will use as a revenue source then I would want the cost of the unit reduced.
 
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