Irrational dislikes?

[Designer Dale]

More for my list.

People who post a series of photos of only local interest and insist on documenting what's going on. Complete with links...
Filthy bicycle photos...

I have no idea what you are talking about. I must have missed the shot to which you are referring. This wasn't aimed at you in particular at all.

I was merely saying: I understand landscapes can be hard to shoot. Despite that, the vast majority don't do anything for me. While I appreciate the time and effort people put into them, 99% of the time I walk away being underwhelmed. Likely because my artistic sense is underdeveloped or something.

I quoted Kallisti, but this is a broad response...

It's all about personal taste in photography, that's what Doylem was getting at when he started this thing. Because someone does or doesn't like a particular style says nothing about the viewer or the photographer. It's like food. I don't like Thai. My palette isn't underdeveloped, I just don't like Thai food. End of debate.

Speaking of debates, who would have ever thought that an archaeologist, a doctor and a cartoonist would be so passionate about photography and art.

My only request is that the opinions being voiced here stay here, and don't bleed over into POTD. I, for one, want to have the opportunity to skim over photos. Every now and then one of those shots on the Dull List is hit just right and I want to be there for that.

Dale

 

[puckhead193]

i can't stand people who use P&S or entry DSLRs and use scene modes/full auto and say they are good photographers. I'm sorry your not that good, your scene/subject was good. All you did was push a button and the camera did the work :/

 

[El Cabong]

I owe you an apology.

No worries.

 

[pdxflint]

More for my list.

People who post a series of photos of only local interest and insist on documenting what's going on. Complete with links...
Filthy bicycle photos...

Dale

And I love you, too... Dale. I guess if enough others feel the same way, it can only mean most of my subjects have worn out their welcome... But, you've got a point there. I can't think of any kind of shot I might contribute that doesn't fit squarely into one or another of this "pet peeves" compendium, and I don't specifically create my photos for this forum anyway... so I'll likely have to spend more time than I already do thinking about whether any photo I've taken has any point being posted in POTD... hmmmm.

 

[Doylem]

Some interesting thoughts about 'photographic clichés'... and I put the words in quotes because when I'm shooting pix I'm never thinking "is this a cliché", and I don't care if a place has been photographed a million times already. What matters, to me, is the here and now, and my immediate response to what I'm seeing. The English Lake District is one of the most photographed places in the world. In fact, when I moved here, I was intimidated by the history of photographers, painters and writers who've been inspired by this landscape. But I'm over that now, and feel more comfortable in my role as observer.

Photography remains both a simple mechanical process (click the shutter and the camera will do the best it can) and a highly creative disciple, and the photographic world in general - and POTD in particular - can accommodate all levels of taste and proficiency. As for the people who shoot their family: that's just about the best thing to photograph, IMO, the people you love.

I don't respond to pictures of cats... because I don't like cats. But that's just my irrational prejudice... which is how this thread started out...

 

[Designer Dale]

And I love you, too... Dale. I guess if enough others feel the same way, it can only mean most of my subjects have worn out their welcome... But, you've got a point there. I can't think of any kind of shot I might contribute that doesn't fit squarely into one or another of this "pet peeves" compendium, and I don't specifically create my photos for this forum anyway... so I'll likely have to spend more time than I already do thinking about whether any photo I've taken has any point being posted in POTD... hmmmm.

Photos of things with local interest refers to me... Urban Ruins. Chinese Reconciliation Park and so on. all was said in good humor.

If we put too much weight on the validity of a shot as a Photo of the Day, the thread will dry up. I know I usually don't believe my photos are "worthy". I just post because I like the shot and want to share it.

Dale

 

[pdxflint]

Actually, Dale... I'm one of those who appreciates some background or story to a pic... perhaps it's the journalistic curiosity side of me, certainly there are pics that stand on their own, but most can use a little supplementary text to help fully communicate with the intended audience. I'd say just keep putting that "local interest" stuff out there, and if some choose to skip over it, so be it.

Cheers.

 

[Artful Dodger]

More for my list.

People who post a series of photos of only local interest and insist on documenting what's going on. Complete with links...
Filthy bicycle photos...



I quoted Kallisti, but this is a broad response...

It's all about personal taste in photography, that's what Doylem was getting at when he started this thing. Because someone does or doesn't like a particular style says nothing about the viewer or the photographer. It's like food. I don't like Thai. My palette isn't underdeveloped, I just don't like Thai food. End of debate.

Speaking of debates, who would have ever thought that an archaeologist, a doctor and a cartoonist would be so passionate about photography and art.

My only request is that the opinions being voiced here stay here, and don't bleed over into POTD. I, for one, want to have the opportunity to skim over photos. Every now and then one of those shots on the Dull List is hit just right and I want to be there for that.

Dale

I enjoy seeing everyone's photo's since it allows me to view places, things and so on that I might never see or the way it can be seen, such as really muddy people and their bikes I also remember getting yelled at for coming home that muddy as a kid, good to know I can come home like that now and still find it fun, like the photo's. I whole heartedly agree to keep this from spilling over into "any" of the other threads or how would we continue to learn.

a cartoonist would be so passionate about photography and art.

Some times someone is given a situation in which they have time to think even if they don't want to. It was at an auspicious moment when I had to spend a week in recovery after my surgery and realized that I only had about a dozen photo's which could, would or might document my life with all it's prior events. Since I had to leave art school before I could take my photography classes I decided it was time to take advantage of my time off and dive into another realm of the creative process. This has given me the advantage of being able to view myself and more so the things that contribute to the whole process via looking at a photo and remembering the what, why and where went into everything.

This part contributes to the background story since at one point I was or could have been part of a Pet Peeve or Cliché, the person staring out of a window example. The other part, which I feel I learned since it was a part of me would become instead of looking at a photo or painting and thinking "not another one of…" I looked at how everything interacted. Look at a face and it's emotion or lack there of, the energy it conveys, the setting, did the image remind me or set off a visceral feeling from past experiences and so on. Thus, the person staring out a window now had a new meaning, maybe even a purpose.

So while I say I have a Peeve list, it might be one more of "I just don't get it…yet, list".

Actually, Dale... I'm one of those who appreciates some background or story to a pic... perhaps it's the journalistic curiosity side of me, certainly there are pics that stand on their own, but most can use a little supplementary text to help fully communicate with the intended audience. I'd say just keep putting that "local interest" stuff out there, and if some choose to skip over it, so be it.

Cheers.

I do enjoy the background after I've looked at a photo, painting or any type of art. The process of understanding in my own way and then being enlightened by what or even a glimpse of how or what the person who created it gave thought to. This for me anyway also adds to the first above reply I typed.

Okay, enough here as my replies will end up on a list by the next page

 

[flosseR]

Pet peeves: anyone giving advice that is CLEARLY just copy pasted from some book or website and has no relevance over a photo in question.

now about photos:
-HDR is fine when it is subtle but for some reason anyone with access to piratebay and new to photography is downloading photomatix and overdoing it all.
-Personally I dont mind clichés since some of them are different and it is something that every photographer goes through: re-creation .. that way we learn.
-kids snapshots are not the greatest subject but i also dislike the "overly artistic " shots.
-just bokeh.... I agree with a previous poster: WTF! its just friggin circles or round splotches.. congratulations you can shoot out of focus... no need to bore everyone else with it.
-Overflashed and then posted as the very best. Well sorry to say, then your best is not good enough. If we can see the flash spot on,blinding the subject.. its trash.
-the female provocative poses... I agree with whoever wrote about the female poses. Yes women are, mostly, photogenic but please, i dont need to see a 16 year old with an expression and pose that belongs to a 25 year old "working girl".

Lastly, if you are new to photography: go shoot photos of your significant other, go out play around etc. but please dont post 50 photos of the same person from different angles expecting that you will get praise on how good one or the other looks.

I am not a pro and i have a lot to learn but some things should not be done and if you want to grow as a photographer you need input, fair enough, but please use common sense before posting photos that are clearly JUST SNAPSHOTS.


now, what i do like: Creativity.. thinking outside the box. Though just like the "photo that comes with a picture frame" I have had my fair share f shots that i thought were not that great but were hugely popular even so that I sold them... (cheap but still....couldnt believe it).

If you want to grow, start thinking creatively, watch other photographers' shots here and try to immitate or even improve. Equipment is not always the hindering factor... as a matter of fact unless its macro or special shots, I would argue a lot can be recreated by using "cheaper" lenses...

my 2 cents.. sorry for the length.

oh and about the shot of kenny boy and his family: once it is online and publicaly available its free for all to download unless it CLEARLY states that you cannot re-produce the photo.

 

[someoldguy]

First ... gotta commend everyone for their civility . Maybe its because all of us post something that's on someone else's list of dislikes , or maybe this forum's posters are a bit more mellow ( mature??) than many other forums .

my dislikes (rational or otherwise)

HDR , most HDR (but not all) posts remind me of those garish paintings on velvet you used to see guys on the roadside selling some years back in the NYC area.
HDR in general , just looks too much like a ' velvet Elvis' to me .

Babies ( and usually , children) Nothin against kids , got a couple of them myself, plus a grandkid . All kids are cute to their family but to everyone else their just another child . Usually I scroll past kids pictures.

Note I'm using qualifiers like usually and maybe , there have been exceptions.

 

[telecomm]

365 projects

Not the projects themselves (I guess people should be commended for the determination), but the public display of the series on Flickr, etc. Who can take one photo worthy of public display each day for a year?!

Not me (sadly), but not most of those who post these projects either. A 12 [one per month] project maybe, but 365... ugh, keep it to yourself. [/pet peeve]

I hesitated to post this seeing as there was some talk of starting a 365 thread around here, but I'm sure it'll draw out some good photos anyway!

 

[AlaskaMoose]

Other people's pictures.

Mostly I'm somewhat turned off by intentionally out of focus lights and nothing else (and I even took one myself once). There has been lots of that during the Christmas season. I've probably seen more on Flickr than here, though. I've learned that if there isn't something in focus, the picture isn't really worth anything.

And, it appears I'm going to have to flood the Picture of the Day thread with pictures of my kids! Actually, I don't mind seeing that myself. To me they're usually just random people anyway. I do try not to make my kids and pets the subject too often.

I'm going to add some positive feelings that I really like seeing beautiful landscapes (and envious of them because there's not much of that here). I also find myself drawn to black and white people images. Many of those really give a sense of timelessness that I like.

I really like this part of your response: "Other people's pictures"

That says it all, for the truth is that it's just human to mostly like (or dislike) those things each one of us become accustomed to. Even amazing photographs and paintings created by the masters in the past, sometimes some of us don't find "amazing"

 

[deep diver]

My pet peeve is photo-snobbery. We've all been subjected to the "Your stuff is garbage just because I don't like it" kind of attitude. Happily, I do not see that in this thread.

I don't think clichés are bad. I think poorly executed clichés are bad.

 

[Keleko]

I really like this part of your response: "Other people's pictures"

That says it all, for the truth is that it's just human to mostly like (or dislike) those things each one of us become accustomed to. Even amazing photographs and paintings created by the masters in the past, sometimes some of us don't find "amazing"

I think I should add that it is "other people's pictures" that are better than mine, which is most of them (at least in my opinion). I think most of it is because they were there to take the picture, and I wasn't. I don't get to travel much, so I don't have a lot of opportunity to go out and about to take pictures. However, I have been able to explore my surroundings more and found things I didn't know were around or didn't really appreciate at first.

 

[pna]

No I just think he is a funny looking kid (FLK in medical jargon, yes we actually refer to them this way.)

On a more serious note, it's an artifact from the shooting conditions. Based on his other pics of Ryan, I think this is real. Some kids photograph better than others. He's really a cute kid though, if you take the time to look at his photos on Ken's site. I'm not really seeing why you think he looks strange in this pic. He's just a kid being a kid, posing for a photo.

Hm. He posted this in an entry entitled 'Replacing Heads in Photoshop'.

 

[AlaskaMoose]

I think I should add that it is "other people's pictures" that are better than mine, which is most of them (at least in my opinion). I think most of it is because they were there to take the picture, and I wasn't. I don't get to travel much, so I don't have a lot of opportunity to go out and about to take pictures. However, I have been able to explore my surroundings more and found things I didn't know were around or didn't really appreciate at first.

You are being so polite and modest I still like what you didn't mean to say." And yes, it's true that one can learn a lot about taking photos by seeing other's. You have the right attitude.

 

[bocomo]

forgot to add:

cheesy, obvious titles

 

[TheSVD]

I think it's a personal choice.

For instance, I don't watermark small images that I contribute to these types of forums, which are fairly anonymous (even though my website is right there in my signature) and really just about sharing images.

On the other hand, when I post images to a forum that may be seen by potential clients or that are about posting a body of professional work, I definitely watermark. It's not about image theft; it's about branding. Oh, and any time that full-sized images are available, I watermark (though that's not very common).

well, I never watermark my stuff as I don't think of people stealing it because its not that good, even though mtbdudex stole my image which can be seen in this post from the 'post your home theater' Thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/11509511/

Click on thumb resize to see my image on flickr, its exactly the same as his, he just edited it to look white!

So watch out, you never know, perhaps I should start watermarking..

 

[panoz7]

well, I never watermark my stuff as I don't think of people stealing it because its not that good, even though mtbdudex stole my image which can be seen in this post from the 'post your home theater' Thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/11509511/

Click on thumb resize to see my image on flickr, its exactly the same as his, he just edited it to look white!

So watch out, you never know, perhaps I should start watermarking..

Mtbdudex posted his photo to that thread on September 6, 2010. The exif data on your flickr photo shows that it was taken on October 25, 2010. How exactly did he steal your photo if it hadn't been taken yet? If you line them up in photoshop they're similar but not identical. I'd imagine most photos of an almost full moon all alone look pretty similar.

Back on topic: My only real dislike are obviously HDR photos.

 

[Edge100]

well, I never watermark my stuff as I don't think of people stealing it because its not that good, even though mtbdudex stole my image which can be seen in this post from the 'post your home theater' Thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/11509511/

Click on thumb resize to see my image on flickr, its exactly the same as his, he just edited it to look white!

So watch out, you never know, perhaps I should start watermarking..

The images are clearly different (note how the shadows on the right side of the moon overlap differently with the craters, for instance), not to mention the differences in the EXIF (as mentioned).

You might want to be careful before you go accusing people of theft in a public forum.

Oh, and watermarking would have been a huge help here, yes.

 

[compuwar]

How exactly did he steal your photo if it hadn't been taken yet?

He's obviously got a Rebel with the flux capacitor option!

Paul

 

[TheSVD]

Mtbdudex posted his photo to that thread on September 6, 2010. The exif data on your flickr photo shows that it was taken on October 25, 2010. How exactly did he steal your photo if it hadn't been taken yet? If you line them up in photoshop they're similar but not identical. I'd imagine most photos of an almost full moon all alone look pretty similar.

Back on topic: My only real dislike are obviously HDR photos.

ooohhh man do I feel silly now I was going to line them up on photoshop but both my comps I've only just got so PS wasnt installed! cut me some slack, you can see how I thought they were similar right? haha sorry guys

The images are clearly different (note how the shadows on the right side of the moon overlap differently with the craters, for instance), not to mention the differences in the EXIF (as mentioned).

You might want to be careful before you go accusing people of theft in a public forum.

Oh, and watermarking would have been a huge help here, yes.

Again, sorry haha c'mon though, looking at the two (to me) they looked so, so so alike! That's why, and I was sure of it, I would never accuse someone unless I was sure. And I know moon pics may look similar but with him in America and me in the UK (yes, the moon rotates, I know) just seemed to coincidental, its almost at the exact same place, and so much so I thought he stole my image! I'm not some forum idiot or looking to annoy people, I really did think he stole my image haha

He's obviously got a Rebel with the flux capacitor option!

Paul

Excellent feature! The pics of me and Caeser are quite breathtaking

 

[Love]

People who use that damn Picnik thing and think they're actual photo editors.