Is 10.4 tiger going to be Free???

[liketom]

I happen to like Duff man , and when Duff man say's O' Yeah ..he means O'yeah
thanks for input every one looks like my £99 is waiting for Tiger now

 

[amols]

Maybe missing something here but just had a search on google and came up with this forum which thinks tiger will be a free upgrade??? can this be ? any one care to educate me if this is true or not ?[/URL]

We will soon know...just a couple of weeks

 

[strider42]

so to repeat myself: we have a mac osx 3.4 currently, not a 10.3.4 or ten-whatever. "10" equals "X" and that just means "OS X" - a new generation of macintosh system.

I believe officially the operating system is named Mac OS X 10.3. OS X is the brand name, version 10.3 is the version of that operating system. So having OS X 11.x.x is fully possible and would match up with what apple has been doing for a while now. The operating system is NOT named OS X.3

 

[fartheststar]

I can see it now, "Tiger 10.4 released" hits the front page of macrumors. Then most of you guys will say "Nah, im waiting for 10.5" A year passes, nothing happens. Hehe....

I bought my G4 (needed OS9) 3 months prior to Panther and didn't get the upgrade free. I'm still on 10.2.8 and I will be buying Tiger once it's stable. I can't wait to use Expose and whatever new goodies Tiger has. I couldn't justify the purchase of Panther at the time.... I can now... but why bother when Tiger will be announced shortly. (Improved mail, safari, expose, etc

Hey... if they say at WWDC "Anyone who buys panther after X date gets a free upgrade to Tiger", then I will". They've done that with DVD studio Pro 1.5 to 2 in the past, MS did it with office.... but I doubt they would do it with the OS.

 

[kanker]

I believe officially the operating system is named Mac OS X 10.3. OS X is the brand name, version 10.3 is the version of that operating system. So having OS X 11.x.x is fully possible and would match up with what apple has been doing for a while now. The operating system is NOT named OS X.3

That would be correct. Look at the Apple software update/downloads page on their website, and you'll see updates for OSX 10.3.4 (among others). I wouldn't be surprised to see OSX 11.5.3 at some point.

As a side note, I love the whole Duff-Man says........oh yeah! thing. Make me wish I had thought of something like that first.

 

[StrangeQuark]

That would be correct. Look at the Apple software update/downloads page on their website, and you'll see updates for OSX 10.3.4 (among others). I wouldn't be surprised to see OSX 11.5.3 at some point.

As a side note, I love the whole Duff-Man says........oh yeah! thing. Make me wish I had thought of something like that first.

Well, even updating every year they have until late 2010 before we push beyond 10.x. Updating every 1.5 or 2 years could push it to 2013 or 2016. Basically, the span of time between OS X and OS Whatever will be at least as long as that between System 7 and X, and possibly as long as System 1 and X. I wouldn't bet on OS X 11.5.3, I'd bet on a totally new OS that is as radical a departure from OS X as OS X was from Classic OS. For that, they will come up with an entirely new naming scheme for marketing reasons.

 

[jimjiminyjim]

Thank you StrangeQuark for stating the obvious! As cool as the OS X brand is, Apple would never let the name get so confusing. Any number beyond 10 will be so far into the future (technologically speaking) that the question is irrelevant. Mugs up to all things wireless and new through 10.4.

 

[FuzzyBallz]

Yes, when you buy a new or refurb system from Apple after Tiger's introduced...

Dude do you always talk like that? You do realise that you're not Duff-Man don't you and that referring to yourself in the third person the whole time makes you sound a little crazy

Well, you get use to it. It's the samething w/ people who signs their name at the end of every post even though their name's right next to their post already. You're just glad some people's handle's not "Your mom".

 

[aswitcher]

I think Apple would gain allot of fans if they gave a discount on Tiger to .Mac owners...that's where there business channel is going to get its annual income now that the OSX development is slowing so that's where they should be pushing people...

 

[adamjay]

Dude do you always talk like that? You do realise that you're not Duff-Man don't you and that referring to yourself in the third person the whole time makes you sound a little crazy

you mean thats not Duff-Man?

on a serious note... you must be new around these parts. Duff-Man is a staple and i always enjoy hearing what he has to say... just as Homer would.

 

[DMann]

10.4 "Year of the Tiger"

Educational discount is very generous indeed!

 

[iKwak]

off-topic: Microsoft never gave free upgrade on their o.s.

 

[MacRy]

MacRy says: To all of the DuffMan fans and DuffMan himself - i'm only yanking your chain guys, no offence meant - DuffMan speaks the truth most of the time....oh yeah!

Still think he's a little unstable though

 

[oingoboingo]

I think Apple would gain allot of fans if they gave a discount on Tiger to .Mac owners...that's where there business channel is going to get its annual income now that the OSX development is slowing so that's where they should be pushing people...

Indeed, a discount for .Mac members would be a welcome change from the usual .Mac member's specials, which are for want of a better word, lacking (especially for non-US subscribers). I doubt I will be renewing my membership when my current year's subscription ends...especially with outfits like Google and Yahoo now giving away 100MB+ e-mail accounts.

 

[adamjay]

Still think he's a little unstable though

unstable... just as every Beer-Endorsing Super Hero should be. but at least he uses a mac!

 

[netytan]

This needs to end lol. No its not going to be free sadly. although it would be nice - what would be nicer still would be if .Mac was actualyl worth paying for, i mean come on its pathetic and making users pay for it is even worse

Maybe if say it came with a monthly subscription to say MacWorld (one of the cheeper Mac Mags) or if thats too much to handle im sure Apple could publish there own in PDF form at little to no cost. That to me would make it at least may be slightly useful but still, pretty bad you have to admit .

At the very least if they would just improve the home-page facility. Maybe add some standard things like CGI (Python, Perl) and or PHP support? Then we could offset the cost of .Mac with whatever we could be paying for hosting. And they could make even more money off us by offering to register domains for us .

Makes sence to me anyway ,

Mark.

 

[italianmacboy]

Tiger will Be Free !

Mac Os 10.4 "Tiger"
will be free for the users wich will buy A Mac without it 1 or 2 months before it release, paying only the expediction Costs (Doing the Up-to-Datehttps://forums.macrumors.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=889604#)

 

[jknight8907]

No. Unless of course you were to 'borrow' someone's. But you wouldn't do that!

 

[kanker]

Well, even updating every year they have until late 2010 before we push beyond 10.x. Updating every 1.5 or 2 years could push it to 2013 or 2016. Basically, the span of time between OS X and OS Whatever will be at least as long as that between System 7 and X, and possibly as long as System 1 and X. I wouldn't bet on OS X 11.5.3, I'd bet on a totally new OS that is as radical a departure from OS X as OS X was from Classic OS. For that, they will come up with an entirely new naming scheme for marketing reasons.

I think that as long as the Mac OS is unix based that the brand will be OS X. I certainly could be wrong, and Apple is definitely the hardest company in the world to predict, but it also seems that the letter 'X' is a fundamental part of many unix based OS's, e.g. linux, AIX, OS X, as unix is inherently a stream of puns and other weird bases for command names. I'm grasping at straws of course.

 

[StrangeQuark]

I think that as long as the Mac OS is unix based that the brand will be OS X. I certainly could be wrong, and Apple is definitely the hardest company in the world to predict, but it also seems that the letter 'X' is a fundamental part of many unix based OS's, e.g. linux, AIX, OS X, as unix is inherently a stream of puns and other weird bases for command names. I'm grasping at straws of course.

I have one word for you: "Solaris". Extremely popular UNIX based OS. No X in the name. Incidentally, Linux isn't Unix-based either. The codebase is completely independent. Now UNIX-inspired, that's another thing.


Interesting side-note: Every major operating system in existence today is strongly tied to Unix. Windows is built atop DOS, which was a hack of CP/M, which was a hack of Unix (Windows, a graft onto a hack of a hack). Mac OS X is built directly atop BSD Unix. Linux is strongly Unix inspired, is code-compatible, and uses the same shells. We owe a lot to Bell Labs.

 

[johnnyjibbs]

I would expect Tiger to be $129/£99, just like Jaguar and Panther.

Mac OS X 10.1 (Puma) was free (or $20 ) because Mac OS X 10.0 (Cheetah) was incomplete in many obvious areas. Of course it was only free to 10.0 users, which is fair.

I doubt Tiger will be more than $129/£99 because I can't see it taking longer to develop than Panther. I bet it will be out at around October again, only a year after Panther. I say this because announcing its features so early at WWDC begins to hurt sales of Panther as people then expect it to be "around the corner", like they did last year. So they need to then get it out as soon as possible.

It would be nice to see some incentives for .Mac users though. If I could get Tiger for half price as a .Mac user, I'd sign up, and this could be a good thing for Apple.

Regarding the numbering system. Mac OS X is Macintosh Operating System version 10. They could have called it Mac OS 10 but they used the roman numerals to distinguish it from the old classic Mac OS. This also explains why Mac OS 9 was rushed through and didn't last that long: because 10 is a nice round number to start the next generation.

I expect OS X to continue for many years, maybe even outdoing System 7. We'll see 10.4, 10.5, 10.6... - there's no reason why we can't have Mac OS X 10.10 or 10.11. That would still be OS 10, not 11. So, unlike what JFreak points out, Panther is 10.3.4 not version 3.4 of a new system called X. Personally I find the numbering system much better than the mess that Windows has got itself into.

Of course, expect the familiar outcries when we have to shell out more money to upgrade later this year and, of course, iLife '05 in January.

 

[liketom]

ok so if Tiger is not going to be free and it will be the last release for a while .. how much do you think apple will charge ??? say if its $129 /£99 you would buy with min moaning about the price but what if apple decide to charge say $169-$200 £115- 130 ish WOULD you buy ?? i expect Tiger to last at least 2 years or so , so more bang for my buck maybe? what do you all think?

Tom