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BlindMellon

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i've notice looking at all the 4" and larger phones that they've all got a pretty hefty space around the screen to the edge of the phone. makes me think the edge to edge design that's being talked about isn't even possible.
 

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You need something to hold the screen to. I have never seen an edge to edge screen in any electronic product ever. So yes I guess if the iPhone goes for the 4" it will require a bezel and be much larger than the current one.
 
You need something to hold the screen to. I have never seen an edge to edge screen in any electronic product ever. So yes I guess if the iPhone goes for the 4" it will require a bezel and be much larger than the current one.
that's why i'm thinking the iphone5 will look exactly like the iphone4. maybe a new design next time.
 
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Some of you need to stop dreaming. A 4" screen is never going to happen. Maybe we'll get a 3.7" screen a few models down the road. Apple will never conform to the new ridiculous 4" or 4"+ screen sizes that garbage Android phones use. Also, every app would have to be fixed to support a new resolution.
 
Do we really need a bigger screen?! Is it that necessary to have or not having make the iPhone less attractable?! People, relax with the bigger screen thing. If you want a bigger screen, jump to the Evo or whatever else is out there.
 
i've notice looking at all the 4" and larger phones that they've all got a pretty hefty space around the screen to the edge of the phone. makes me think the edge to edge design that's being talked about isn't even possible.

You're not analyzing this properly though.

The other phones have a bigger form factor, it's like holding a brick in your hand, and are huge compared to the iPhone 4.

Can Apple put a 4" screen in the same form factor? That would be nice! Let's see Apple 'innovate' once again.


Do we really need a bigger screen?! Is it that necessary to have or not having make the iPhone less attractable?! People, relax with the bigger screen thing. If you want a bigger screen, jump to the Evo or whatever else is out there.

It's not about being attracting, it's about usability. The extra screen real estate could do so much for the future iOS, such as non-intrusive notification systems. The possibilities are endless with a bigger screen.

Actually, i'm thinking about jumping to an Evo or some Android if Apple doesn't deliver with iOS 5 and iPhone 5, this is the last straw for me.
 
Actually, i'm thinking about jumping to an Evo or some Android if Apple doesn't deliver with iOS 5 and iPhone 5, this is the last straw for me.



I said that last year and moved on to android, while i liked it... the iphone 4 is a better overall quality device (build, photo-videos, app quality and battery life) I then switched back. I feel iOS 5 will be better.


Android OS itself is ok but the quality build of the devices is semi cheap and the battery lifwe is the worst i have had on a smartphone.
 
Some of you need to stop dreaming. A 4" screen is never going to happen. Maybe we'll get a 3.7" screen a few models down the road. Apple will never conform to the new ridiculous 4" or 4"+ screen sizes that garbage Android phones use. Also, every app would have to be fixed to support a new resolution.

No need to be so hostile towards Android. I would never say never to Apple. A 4 inch screen would be nice. Why would they bother only adding .2 inches?

You have a valid point with the apps updating their graphics. But AFAIK it isn't/shouldn't be a huge deal to support new graphics, its just that some devs are lazy. The ones that want to sell their apps will update their apps.


Do we really need a bigger screen?! Is it that necessary to have or not having make the iPhone less attractable?! People, relax with the bigger screen thing. If you want a bigger screen, jump to the Evo or whatever else is out there.

Thats a real great suggestion there... Have you ever thought that there might be people who like the iPhone and don't want to get an Android, but also would like a bigger screen?


You're not analyzing this properly though.

The other phones have a bigger form factor, it's like holding a brick in your hand, and are huge compared to the iPhone 4.

Can Apple put a 4" screen in the same form factor? That would be nice! Let's see Apple 'innovate' once again.

Exactly. If Apple could put a bigger screen in the current form factor, why wouldn't they?

The iPhone has a great design as is. I really don't see the need for some drastic improvements in design and such. When Apple gets a good design, it can probably stick with that.

With current technology, I don't really know what needs to get added to the iPhone for now... besides marginal upgrades of course. The best things Apple can do with the iPhone right now involve iOS features.
 
I wouldnt mind a 4" screen only if they keep the device itself the same size.... if not then I am perfectly fine with the current size. One of the things I dislike about some new android phones is how huge and brickish they are. I dont know how some people carry those things around in their pockets.
 
You need something to hold the screen to. I have never seen an edge to edge screen in any electronic product ever. So yes I guess if the iPhone goes for the 4" it will require a bezel and be much larger than the current one.

Once again... I don't know of anyone that holds their iPhone by the tiny little black strip to the left and the right of the screen. Most hold it where the metal is.
 
I just don't see what the big deal (problem) is. It won't literally be edge to edge. There will still be a TINY gap. Screen would be under metal and glass just like now. What's the problem??
 
Once again... I don't know of anyone that holds their iPhone by the tiny little black strip to the left and the right of the screen. Most hold it where the metal is.

i am not talking about people holding the phone I am talking about a place internally in the phone to hold the screen.

And by the way you know that a 4" screen in the same aspect ratio is wider than the iPhone 4 itself, so it is impossible to keep the same size and use a 4" screen.
 
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Some of you need to stop dreaming. A 4" screen is never going to happen. Maybe we'll get a 3.7" screen a few models down the road. Apple will never conform to the new ridiculous 4" or 4"+ screen sizes that garbage Android phones use. Also, every app would have to be fixed to support a new resolution.


Android phones are not garbage -_-
 
You need something to hold the screen to. I have never seen an edge to edge screen in any electronic product ever. So yes I guess if the iPhone goes for the 4" it will require a bezel and be much larger than the current one.

You're not analyzing this properly though.

The other phones have a bigger form factor, it's like holding a brick in your hand, and are huge compared to the iPhone 4.

Can Apple put a 4" screen in the same form factor? That would be nice! Let's see Apple 'innovate' once again.




It's not about being attracting, it's about usability. The extra screen real estate could do so much for the future iOS, such as non-intrusive notification systems. The possibilities are endless with a bigger screen.

Actually, i'm thinking about jumping to an Evo or some Android if Apple doesn't deliver with iOS 5 and iPhone 5, this is the last straw for me.

I wouldnt mind a 4" screen only if they keep the device itself the same size.... if not then I am perfectly fine with the current size. One of the things I dislike about some new android phones is how huge and brickish they are. I dont know how some people carry those things around in their pockets.

I don't know why everyone assumes that all 4" + screen phones are "brickish". There are some with a 4" screen that are not much difference in size than the iPhone 4. Here is a pic of my Motorola Atrix (4" screen) next to my iPhone 4, and as you can see, the outer dimensions of the Atrix are almost identical to those of the iPhone 4. There really isn't enough of a difference for it to matter usability-wise, and shows that if Apple can shrink some of the internal components a bit more, then a 4" screen would be a relatively easy upgrade. The Atrix certainly isn't a "brick" when in your pocket.

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I don't know why everyone assumes that all 4" + screen phones are "brickish". There are some with a 4" screen that are not much difference in size than the iPhone 4. Here is a pic of my Motorola Atrix (4" screen) next to my iPhone 4, and as you can see, the outer dimensions of the Atrix are almost identical to those of the iPhone 4. There really isn't enough of a difference for it to matter usability-wise, and shows that if Apple can shrink some of the internal components a bit more, then a 4" screen would be a relatively easy upgrade. The Atrix certainly isn't a "brick" when in your pocket.

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Your pic demonstrates what I said. The Atrix does not has an edge to edge screen and is wider than the iPhone 4. Check my post I never said 4" phones are bricks. I just said it is phisically impossible to put a 4" screen in the same size iphone 4.
 
Your pic demonstrates what I said. The Atrix does not has an edge to edge screen and is wider than the iPhone 4. Check my post I never said 4" phones are bricks. I just said it is phisically impossible to put a 4" screen in the same size iphone 4.

Does it really matter if the phone gets a little bit bigger? There comes a point where a compromise needs to be made. Sure, the iPhone could potentially be the smallest, lightest smartphone ever but it would come at the cost of being a decent contender in the modern market. If it becomes the most powerful and feature heavy phone it will be bulky and unusable for those with smaller hands. If it become slightly larger it will still be very pocketable, and who knows, they could be able to fit a much larger battery in with all that extra space. If Apple keep the same 3.5" display they will still sell millions of iPhones, but people have begun to want more screen real estate.
 
Does it really matter if the phone gets a little bit bigger? There comes a point where a compromise needs to be made. Sure, the iPhone could potentially be the smallest, lightest smartphone ever but it would come at the cost of being a decent contender in the modern market. If it becomes the most powerful and feature heavy phone it will be bulky and unusable for those with smaller hands. If it become slightly larger it will still be very pocketable, and who knows, they could be able to fit a much larger battery in with all that extra space. If Apple keep the same 3.5" display they will still sell millions of iPhones, but people have begun to want more screen real estate.

Again. What I wait is that people claim the iPhone 5 will have a 4" screen and the same exact shell as the 4. That is impossible.

I am not saying it is bad or good. Read my posts before answering them
 
The technical challenge for all tempered glass is that their weakest area are the edges, so having the edge exposed is a no-no for glass screens.
It might need to be some different type of material for it to have the edge exposed.
 
I don't know why everyone assumes that all 4" + screen phones are "brickish". There are some with a 4" screen that are not much difference in size than the iPhone 4. Here is a pic of my Motorola Atrix (4" screen) next to my iPhone 4, and as you can see, the outer dimensions of the Atrix are almost identical to those of the iPhone 4. There really isn't enough of a difference for it to matter usability-wise, and shows that if Apple can shrink some of the internal components a bit more, then a 4" screen would be a relatively easy upgrade. The Atrix certainly isn't a "brick" when in your pocket.

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dsc0201g.jpg

The Atrix certainly isn't a brick.
 
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