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So, are we comparing the 2.33 MBP with a 24" iMac with a 7600 GPU, or something else?

If it's the 7300 GPU, the performance will be comparable. The 7600 GPU is much better than the X1600, but I don't know whether it would show much better results in anything outside of games.
 
So, are we comparing the 2.33 MBP with a 24" iMac with a 7600 GPU, or something else?

If it's the 7300 GPU, the performance will be comparable. The 7600 GPU is much better than the X1600, but I don't know whether it would show much better results in anything outside of games.

Can anyone provide insight on this? is the iMac nVidia 7600 going to have an a noticiable over the mbp's ati card? they're both 256mb...
 
Can anyone provide insight on this? is the iMac nVidia 7600 going to have an a noticiable over the mbp's ati card? they're both 256mb...

Check the numbers on the 24" iMac w/7600GT versus the MBP w/256MB X1600.

The iMac Core 2 Duo with GeForce 7600GT is up to 3x faster than the MBP at the same resolution. Notice also that the C2D iMac is 1FPS faster running Doom 3 @ 1920x200 than the MBP is @ 1680x1050...it's clearly much more powerful.

The C2D iMac with the 7600GT is the first iMac I would call a truly creditable "gaming" iMac, though its (possibly) non-upgradeable video card means it will have a shorter usefull life than a standard gaming tower.

Notice also that the GeForce 7300 in the Mac Pro meets or exceeds the performance of the iMacs equipped with the X1600.

So the hierarchy stands - Mac Pro is tops, followed by the iMac and MBP in that order (cheaper models of the iMac are obviously going to be outpaced by the faster MBPs, but the fastest iMacs are faster than the fastest MBPs).
 
I don't understand; someone said gaming performance does not equate aperture performance. I am not at all interested in games; I just need aperture to function as well as possible short of a mac pro.
 
I don't understand; someone said gaming performance does not equate aperture performance. I am not at all interested in games; I just need aperture to function as well as possible short of a mac pro.

I'm not really that knowledgable on what programs use what hardware, but I don't see how Aperture, or Photoshop, or iMovie, etc. would be that demanding on the graphics card. I would have thought that it would be mostly based on CPU tasks. Therefore, there would not be that much difference between the iMac and the MBP, and the bigger screen on the iMac would be the biggest selling point.

Of course, I could be wrong, in which case the 7600 is like 50% faster than the 7300.

Oh, and in terms of your comment about the 256MB GPUs, you could treat a graphics card like a mini-computer. If you want to tell by looking at specs of two computers which is faster, what do you look for? RAM, or CPU? If you double the RAM in a computer, how much of a performance gain do you see? Not much. What happens if you either double the number of cores, or double the frequency of the CPU? You get a huge increase in speed. It's the same with GPUs. A 2GB X1600 would be completely pointless, and a 128MB X2900XTX would probably flog the pants off it. Assuming either of these GPUs exist, which of course they don't.

Basically, just get the 24" iMac with the 2.33GHz, 2GB RAM and the 7600 just to be safe. I don't know how much the GPU upgrade will benefit you, but it will to some extent, whether huge or tiny. It can't make the computer slower, after all.
 
Can anyone provide insight on this? is the iMac nVidia 7600 going to have an a noticiable over the mbp's ati card? they're both 256mb...

GPUs are like CPUs...faster Ghz doesn't mean a faster chip, more VRAM doesn't equal better GPU.


Those Ghz and Gbs only work when you compare things that using the same "scale"(not sure if thats the right word) as in a 2.66Ghz Xeon is faster then 2.7Ghz G5 PowerMac, but a 3.0Ghz P4 isn't faster then either.
 
i think i'm about settled on the imac then. somethen that drives me f*ck*ng crazy in aperture is the 3-5 seconds "Loading..." when I'm browsing through photos one by one. god damn pain in the ass. If the faster hard drive of the imac, with the faster gpu, can help alleviate that, then that is what i want.

thanks,
 
The hdd and graphics card in the iMac will be faster than the ones in the MBP. Either will be faster than the MB, but the iMac will be better. If you can wait a couple of months, the new ones based on Santa Rosa will probably be out by WWDC in June, or around it. Leopard might be out as well. If price is no concern, get the top end CPU, GPU, and the 750GB hdd, which will help with storage and is a little faster with its 16mb cache. You can get more memory third party. 2GB is nice, but more is better. If it supports 4GB, that would be a good option, albeit expensive, even third party.

If you don't need portability and can wait 2 months, that's your best bet, and then you can just keep the MB around for portability.
 
why don't you just test MBP vs the iMac and/or the MacPro head-to-head? burn you pictures on a DVD - bring it to a store that lets you test the gear. That is always the best way of ensuring what will satisfy your needs. Then post your results in this thread :)

i think i'm about settled on the imac then. somethen that drives me f*ck*ng crazy in aperture is the 3-5 seconds "Loading..." when I'm browsing through photos one by one. god damn pain in the ass. If the faster hard drive of the imac, with the faster gpu, can help alleviate that, then that is what i want.

thanks,
 
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