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Is anyone else a little bored?
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I stopped getting excited about software updates a couple of years ago. Nothing really exciting gets added anymore. Now I just look forward to new phone designs and try to pick what I think looks the nicest. I don't even buy on specs anymore.
But that's not because the car has the same four wheels, and a steering wheel, and a gas and a brake pedal, and is used to drive on surfaces going from one place or another, right? The inherent fundamentals of what a car is and does, which would similarly also apply to other cars that you would switch to.
Some of these points were on my list...thank god, I was able to JB my phone to get around it. The one about dropping folders/files on the phone though pretty much means going Android.
But every year that Android and the major players continue to push the envelope and improve their product means more market share for them.
If Apple continues to ignore users wants or stagnate the iPhone with only minimal improvements, you're only going see more people going to Android.
- losing the 3.5" jack
- refusal to increase battery size
- dragging their feet to increase the display resolution
These are just some of the reasons why people are looking elsewhere when deciding on their next phone.
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The sole reason why the mobile industry still excites me is finding budget phones that blow away premium flagships from 3-4 years ago.
Back in November 2012, it blew people's minds getting a Nexus 4 for only $299. Then a midranger like Moto G in 2013 for $179.
Now I can go into any Best Buy or Walmart and pickup a ZTE Zmax 2, Moto E2, Lumia 640, or Kyocera Hydro Air that blows away both of those aforementioned phones and for $60 or less. We have the Zmax Pro, Moto G4, and Honor 5X that would destroy the Note 2, Optimus G, Nexus 4, Xperia Z, HTC One M7, and Galaxy S4 quite handily. That's late-2012 to early 2013 flagships being surpassed easily by $99-$199 phones with a Snapdragon 616-617 chip.
The current flagship purchases is for ego trips and buying it because you want the best because that is what reviewers hype to you to keep their job. Do people go on torrent sites to download movies in Quad HD? Like the overpriced BlackBerry Connect data plans from years ago, flagship purchases is one of the biggest scams in tech history as we speak right now. It is like those times when we used to buy laptops or HDTV for thousands of dollars only to see the steep price drop a few years later.
2016 flagship specs may go for under $100 by 2019. Like people buying a 10gb mp3 player with monochrome display like the early iPods for $400. People buying an iPod nano with only 4gb of space for $200! Scam artists and Apple is one of the best at it. And these were during the George W years when recession came around 2007 and had suckers continue to throw away their money for disposal gadgets that you can buy for $20 at GameStop a few years later.
The prior overspending for gadgets were mp3 players being sold for hundreds of dollars. The gadget that got where Apple rich before iPhones. Then smartphones basically eliminated all that. And gamers thought a PS3 for $600 was bad?
Back in November 2012, it blew people's minds getting a Nexus 4 for only $299. Then a midranger like Moto G in 2013 for $179.
Now I can go into any Best Buy or Walmart and pickup a ZTE Zmax 2, Moto E2, Lumia 640, or Kyocera Hydro Air that blows away both of those aforementioned phones and for $60 or less. We have the Zmax Pro, Moto G4, and Honor 5X that would destroy the Note 2, Optimus G, Nexus 4, Xperia Z, HTC One M7, and Galaxy S4 quite handily. That's late-2012 to early 2013 flagships being surpassed easily by $99-$199 phones with a Snapdragon 616-617 chip.
The current flagship purchases is for ego trips and buying it because you want the best because that is what reviewers hype to you to keep their job. Do people go on torrent sites to download movies in Quad HD? Like the overpriced BlackBerry Connect data plans from years ago, flagship purchases is one of the biggest scams in tech history as we speak right now. It is like those times when we used to buy laptops or HDTV for thousands of dollars only to see the steep price drop a few years later.
2016 flagship specs may go for under $100 by 2019. Like people buying a 10gb mp3 player with monochrome display like the early iPods for $400. People buying an iPod nano with only 4gb of space for $200! Scam artists and Apple is one of the best at it. And these were during the George W years when recession came around 2007 and had suckers continue to throw away their money for disposal gadgets that you can buy for $20 at GameStop a few years later.
The prior overspending for gadgets were mp3 players being sold for hundreds of dollars. The gadget that got where Apple rich before iPhones. Then smartphones basically eliminated all that. And gamers thought a PS3 for $600 was bad?
Some of the reasons people are not looking elsewhere:
- top notch support
- ease of use
- great apps and ecosystem
- reliabilty
- longevity
- iconic design
- great hardware
I'm not sure who Apple is ignoring? A small vocal minority of posters on MR? You get what you pay for.
I agree.
What I would like to see is an iPhone 2 times as thick as the 6S but with no extra components or technology filling that extra space. Just fill it with more battery.
Is this innovative? I'm not sure. But it's practical. And I'd be thrilled if they did it.
That's a balance isn't it? Practical versus aesthetic…
This cuts both ways. For you it's a selling point so Apple would get a sale from you. On the other hand, Apple would LOSE a sale from me. Because I value aesthetic more heavily than I value practicality.
Apple does too, it seems. The problem I have with Apple though is that my sense of the aesthetic is quite a bit different than their sense of the aesthetic. Since they make the iDevice and I don't, their aestheic viewpoint wins out over mine. Now they aren't winning a sale from me or you because they've missed on both counts.
Twice as thick is a bit much. You wouldn't need anywhere twice as thick to still add a massive battery.
You could double the size of the phone and you still would be shy of the thickness of the HTC Touch Pro, which was my first smartphone in 2009. Granted, half the thickness of the TP included a slide out keyboard, but still.
That said, not a product I'd buy. I think Apple could let it be as thick as the 5/SE series though. It would allow the dissapearance of that fugly camera bulge.
I definitely wouldn't mind the iPhone being a little thicker, but I don't need anywhere near twice as thick for a massive battery. A few extra mm would be fine.
I don't really understand the whole "getting bored" thing.
To use the ever-popular car analogy, if someone buys a new BMW 3-series every couple of years and then says they're bored of BMWs, everyone is going to reply "Try something else." Try an Audi or a Jaguar or a Lexus.
People who are bored of iOS should try something else: Android, BlackBerry, Windows Phone or an HTC or a Samsung or a Huawei - there's loads out there. But to just buy the same brand over and over and complain of boredom amazes me.
To use the ever-popular car analogy, if someone buys a new BMW 3-series every couple of years and then says they're bored of BMWs, everyone is going to reply "Try something else." Try an Audi or a Jaguar or a Lexus.
People who are bored of iOS should try something else: Android, BlackBerry, Windows Phone or an HTC or a Samsung or a Huawei - there's loads out there. But to just buy the same brand over and over and complain of boredom amazes me.
I have to agree with this statement. At the end of the day it's a tool I use to complete tasks. The UI is a bit old at this point, but I'd get bored with the content I was interacting with before the device itself.
The icons from iOS 7 and later are NOT aesthetically pleasing to me.
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But it's so thin already. Twice as thick still isn't as thick as the original iPhone.
I totally agree with you there.
I'm an iOS 6 fan and if there were a way I could nuke the entirety of the PlaySkool, Fisher-Price inspired, primary-color unicorn puke Apple calls iOS 7, 8 and 9, I would.
I'll get excited when Apple figures out that some of us would like a phone the size of the BlackBerry Curve.
Those points are fair. However, that's not to say other phones don't offer points from your list. I'm not a fan of Apple's ecosystem. Other phones I've used are easy to use as well. For me it's:
- Apple support and warranty
- Longevity of iOS updates
- LTE band support, best worldwide phone
- Apple doesn't allow carriers to add bloatware or carrier branding on the device
However on my last two points, Android is catching up. Moto G4, Nexus 6P, Samsung S7 (Unlocked version), and HTC 10 (Unlocked version). I think Android manufacturers are understanding people don't want carrier bloatware. All the carriers need to do is provide me service, I don't need or want any of the bloatware. Let me choose my device and then let me use it on the best service for me, the iPhone was the best for this but now other manufacturers are allowing this option. The iPhone is slowly falling behind in my opinion.
The premise of the post I quoted is that if Apple is going to ignore users wants and needs they will look elsewhere...who is this mythical straw man user we are discussing? I just made up my own straw man, consisting of the universe of happy satisfied users, who love Apple and want the next model and the advancements in hardware and software therein.
There are fair points all around to be "fair".
Brilliantly put. These type of threads pop up frequently and I've never seen my feelings on the issue summed up so well. Thank you!
I would also like it a little thicker for a bigger battery. Just not twice as thick. That's way over the top, IMO. My iPhone already lasts me all day almost every day. Even a battery twice as big wouldn't require near double the thickness, and that would be more battery than I'd ever need in a day.