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chaos86

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Why oh why has apple.com's web designer suddenly decided that the homepage should be wider than a standard page? My browser is usually around 800 pixels wide (designers usually make pages 755px wide), but now to see the Mac Mini or MBP on apple.com I have to resize my browser? why? why cant they just continue the old 755 pixel standard or make a window size checking script? isnt apple trying to bring in more users? why alienate those with small screens or non-wasteful window sizing habits?
 

Peyton

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I don't know:confused: when they first launched the new MBP they had a bigger intro page as well, but only for a couple hours. It shows up fine on all my monitors, I wouldn't say that it keeps anyone from buying a comp tho :rolleyes:
 

chaos86

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lilstewart92 said:
Yeah, i have noticed that. But... it's not enough to piss me off. :rolleyes:

not even on the ibook?

call me crazy, picky, and or a perfectionist, but as a web designer i see it as bad design.

Note to other designers: on 800x600 screens (28% of the internet using world), no browser when maximized holds less that 755x400 pixels. a designer should use that as a minimum when designing, unless youre using a non-static layout.
 

iMeowbot

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*shrug* That's a very Apple thing to do. The attitude shows up in their products too. They're quite willing to leave people behind it it's inconvenient to support them.
 

chaos86

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Glenn Wolsey said:
I believe they are going through an identity crisis right now, open 10 Apple product pages and take a look... :(

lol, agreed. uniformity apple! come on! black for pro pages, white for consumer pages. and do something to make the navigation at the top match the black pages, like on the OSX page!
 
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EricNau said:
AKAIK, the most popular (non-widescreen) screen resolution is 1024x768 - which the Apple page fits perfectly on.

Ah, but although my screen is 1024x768 my browser window is more like 800x600, so I can see Adium and other windows behind it. Because I know I (and other people) surf like this I try to design sites to fit in 800x600.
 

realityisterror

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I've got 1440x960, but those wider pages are enough to really piss me off.
The design should be dynamic if you ask me. It would accommodate more people. There's no real reason I can see as to why it should be so wide other than images, but most of the larger images are centered with a solid color on the sides...

I prefer to keep my browser at 800x600 anyway. Leaves me plenty of room for other work (or of course, other play)

reality
 

Salasm

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Apple has been very inconsistent in so many areas, like what you described, but also:

1) Red button either closes the window or quits the app
2) Brushed metal and plastic UI
3) to name a few...

The variable width on Apple's home page doesn't bug me as much as this:
 

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skoker

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Salasm said:
Apple has been very inconsistent in so many areas, like what you described, but also:

1) Red button either closes the window or quits the app
2) Brushed metal and plastic UI
3) to name a few...

The variable width on Apple's home page doesn't bug me as much as this:


Why that's a poorly placed inspector window!
 

chaos86

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Apple is definately not oblivious to dHTML (recently renamed AJAX by those newb (recently renamed noob by those elite (recently renamed 1337 by those annoying ppl) ppl) web 2.0 ppl).

I don't see why they couldnt have those 6 screenshots in CSS defined tables that are positioned based on a percentage of the window's width. À la, as the window is narrowed, the screenshots move inward, as the window is widened, they spread out; wouldnt that look cool (and probably get dugg).
 

dornoforpyros

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eh I think we're getting to the point with web where it's OK to go outside that 755px box we'd all been using. I think it's pretty rare for people to be running 800 x 600...that being said, I still build for it out of habit.
 

chaos86

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dornoforpyros said:
I think it's pretty rare for people to be running 800 x 600...that being said, I still build for it out of habit.

According to thecounter.com 28% of internet users going to ANY website with a thecounter counter on it are using 800x600. thats a pretty big chunk.

anyway, in 3 minutes I put this together (resize it). i didnt bother putting in the css to put it in layers on top of each other, but if i can do that in three minutes, surely a highly paid apple web desinger can use a similar solution to make their website work for everyone.
 

corywoolf

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Salasm said:
Apple has been very inconsistent in so many areas, like what you described, but also:

1) Red button either closes the window or quits the app
2) Brushed metal and plastic UI
3) to name a few...

The variable width on Apple's home page doesn't bug me as much as this:

That's insane, I was looking at the exact same spot the other day and thinking the same thing! Guess it's not just me who noticed this.
 

dornoforpyros

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chaos86 said:
According to thecounter.com 28% of internet users going to ANY website with a thecounter counter on it are using 800x600. thats a pretty big chunk.

anyway, in 3 minutes I put this together (resize it). i didnt bother putting in the css to put it in layers on top of each other, but if i can do that in three minutes, surely a highly paid apple web desinger can use a similar solution to make their website work for everyone.


doh! oh well, like I said, I still do build for 800 x 600 out of habit anyways.
 

.Andy

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Perhaps it's just a conspiracy to annoy those still browsing at 800x600 so they bite the bullet and upgrade to a new mac with a higher res while they're at the site.......
 

BakedBeans

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Personally I design for 1024x768, im sick of being restricted by such small sizes.

Its all about target audience too, exactly how many of those 28% are visiting apple.com on a regular basis? i would say less than the people that are viewing it on a 30 inch screen.
 
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