Is Apple doomed?

[d5aqoëp]

With current electronics shortage and all the major companies like Microsoft, Google, Nvidia pushing for cloud based subscription system, it really feels like Apple is caught pants down, dead last. Do they have any plans to tackle this ****storm? TBH, I get jitters just to use a dumb terminal with screen, kb, mouse and internet to stream your virtualised OS. Your data where each pdf, docx, jpg, png or any file belongs to Cloud service provider.

Apple is my only hope but how long do you guys think can Apple sustain these hardware product launches if OpenAI, MS, Google, Oracle, Anthropic, etc, etc keep on gobbling up every piece of components of this world? What if this bubble is somehow sustaining for another 10 years? Apple’s AI is a big failure and it seems like Apple has already missed that bus.

 

[eyoungren]

Uh. Okay.

I will continue doing what I do on my 2009 Mac Pro running Sonoma (via OCLP). You…continue with whatever it is you're worrying about.

 

[AL2TEACH]

Uh. Okay.

I will continue doing what I do on my 2009 Mac Pro running Sonoma (via OCLP). You…continue with whatever it is you're worrying about.

I will do the same on my 2015 iMac.

 

[The_Auryn]

You can always switch to Linux.

 

[Certificate of Excellence]

You can always switch to Linux.

Yep, my 2006 cMP, 2008 MB and 2009 MPB all crush it on MX linux. What Im running right now actually.

 

[dumastudetto]

You can always switch to Linux.

The masochists choice.

 

[Certificate of Excellence]

Truthfully, MX was 100% painless for me. The installer ran like any other os and all functionality worked out of the box - zero tweaking which was a first for me and is why I've stuck with it on my older macs. MX Linux is awesome.

 

[klasma]

Apple isn’t doomed, but Apple users might be.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

With current electronics shortage and all the major companies like Microsoft, Google, Nvidia pushing for cloud based subscription system, it really feels like Apple is caught pants down, dead last. Do they have any plans to tackle this ****storm? TBH, I get jitters just to use a dumb terminal with screen, kb, mouse and internet to stream your virtualised OS. Your data where each pdf, docx, jpg, png or any file belongs to Cloud service provider.

Apple is my only hope but how long do you guys think can Apple sustain these hardware product launches if OpenAI, MS, Google, Oracle, Anthropic, etc, etc keep on gobbling up every piece of components of this world? What if this bubble is somehow sustaining for another 10 years? Apple’s AI is a big failure and it seems like Apple has already missed that bus.

Seriously? Go ahead and short AAPL and tell us how it works out for you...

 

[throAU]

Apple is far less doomed than most due to economy of scale; they can negotiate better terms on their supply contracts than others.

They’re also heavily invested in TSMC, so can use that for leverage also.

 

[teh_hunterer]

With current electronics shortage and all the major companies like Microsoft, Google, Nvidia pushing for cloud based subscription system, it really feels like Apple is caught pants down, dead last. Do they have any plans to tackle this ****storm?

Apple will keep making devices that empower the people who use them. That's what they've always done and will always do.

If other companies want to go down the "you will own nothing and be happy route", Apple will happily still sell you devices worth owning.

What are you expecting them to do, other than stick to the principles they've always had?

 

[Naraxus]

Apple Inc - Doomed since April 1st, 1976

 

[Yimbaz]

Well, one day the Sun will expand and swallow Earth before dying. So on a macro timescale, yeah. For anything sooner than that, please consult your local Magic 8-Ball.

 

[d5aqoëp]

Apple will keep making devices that empower the people who use them. That's what they've always done and will always do.

If other companies want to go down the "you will own nothing and be happy route", Apple will happily still sell you devices worth owning.

What are you expecting them to do, other than stick to the principles they've always had?

I want them to continue to make great hardware. But I fear that FOMO will hit Apple hard and they would also will want to jump on cloud bandwagon.

 

[teh_hunterer]

I want them to continue to make great hardware. But I fear that FOMO will hit Apple hard and they would also will want to jump on cloud bandwagon.

Apple doesn't have a history of jumping on bad bandwagons. That's not how they operate.

What exact "cloud bandwagon" are you expecting them to jump on?

Apple is not set up as a company to force users from local computing over to renting from the cloud. That's not what they're good at and even if they were interested in it, I don't see them being able to achieve it any time soon even if they started trying to mass hire talent for it yesterday.

 

[Lloigorr]

I don’t think apple ist around in a 1000 years from now. So yes, it’s doomed.

But for now (and the next ~10 years) it’s all good.

 

[Ethosik]

Doomed compared to who exactly? The RTX 5090 is reported to go up to $5,000 MSRP now. EVERYTHING computing is doomed if this is your view on things. There are rumors we will be going back to DDR 3 and DDR 4 memory and going back to 8GB of RAM on devices now.

I feel Apple is in the best position than any other computer manufacture in the future.

 

[Ethosik]

Apple doesn't have a history of jumping on bad bandwagons. That's not how they operate.

What exact "cloud bandwagon" are you expecting them to jump on?

Apple is not set up as a company to force users from local computing over to renting from the cloud. That's not what they're good at and even if they were interested in it, I don't see them being able to achieve it any time soon even if they started trying to mass hire talent for it yesterday.

The general trend nowadays is that you will only own thin clients now (akin to Chromebooks) and pay a monthly price to "rent" computing power in the cloud.

That seems to be the rumors and narrative on how companies will want to operate 5+ years from now. Personally, I can see this from NVIDIA and AMD perspective. We might truly be in bizarro world where Apple is the affordable computing option going forward. Especially now with the rumored RTX 5090 price increase to $5,000.

 

[Matsamoto]

Apple is doomed.
Sell your shares and leave the sinking boat🙃

 

[Larsvonhier]

The general trend nowadays is that you will only own thin clients now (akin to Chromebooks) and pay a monthly price to "rent" computing power in the cloud.

That seems to be the rumors and narrative on how companies will want to operate 5+ years from now. Personally, I can see this from NVIDIA and AMD perspective. We might truly be in bizarro world where Apple is the affordable computing option going forward. Especially now with the rumored RTX 5090 price increase to $5,000.

You mean that "fancy new trend" like this one from 2011?

Fujitsu’s Platform-Neutral Zero Client Goes Mobile with New MZ900 - Fujitsu Hong Kong

 

[arefbe]

Short answer, no. Nice clickbait title, though...

 

[chmania]

Apple will keep making devices that empower the people who use them.

Can you please explain how an Apple device has "empowered" you?

 

[Nada Ting]

Can you please explain how an Apple device has "empowered" you?

I think he meant "consume".

 

[teh_hunterer]

Can you please explain how an Apple device has "empowered" you?

You're on a tech forum. You don't need how phones, tablets, computers, watches and other technology empowers people explained to you.

That is Apple's philosophy, whether you like their products or not, and it runs counter to the idea of making worse or increasingly expensive devices on purpose to force people into renting instead.

 

[chmania]

You're on a tech forum. You don't need how phones, tablets, computers, watches and other technology empowers people explained to you.

You mean you don’t know how to answer the question about how any Apple device has "empowered" you? For example, I use a device—whatever it may be—to work for me, not the other way around. They are merely tools.