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Is Apple doomed?

d5aqoëp

d5aqoëp

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With current electronics shortage and all the major companies like Microsoft, Google, Nvidia pushing for cloud based subscription system, it really feels like Apple is caught pants down, dead last. Do they have any plans to tackle this ****storm? TBH, I get jitters just to use a dumb terminal with screen, kb, mouse and internet to stream your virtualised OS. Your data where each pdf, docx, jpg, png or any file belongs to Cloud service provider.

Apple is my only hope but how long do you guys think can Apple sustain these hardware product launches if OpenAI, MS, Google, Oracle, Anthropic, etc, etc keep on gobbling up every piece of components of this world? What if this bubble is somehow sustaining for another 10 years? Apple’s AI is a big failure and it seems like Apple has already missed that bus.
 
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the news said this about gasoline and oil shortages and limited and depleting supplies,
we should use wasteful, costly alternatives instead.
meanwhile the USA sits on the most reserves on this planet as sustainable alternatives are failing.

supply and demand, some feel the demand has shrunk.
when we need more chips, they will make em!

so, enjoy your computers because they are not going anywhere!
 
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Free markets are resillient. If there is a shortage, that means there is money to be made and the market will figure out how to innovate and supply that demand. If we're short chips, I mean really "we'll never have enough" short, then the market will figure out how to make more. Why? Because there is money to be made and despite all the AI groupies believing ASI as the door way to a jobless UBI heaven tomorrow, that ship isnt even close to sailing so until then, free market forces will prevail. We'll figure it out and until we do, dont sell the computer you have now. Apple isn't going anywhere.
 
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The_Auryn said:
You can always switch to Linux.
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Yep, my 2006 cMP, 2008 MB and 2009 MPB all crush it on MX linux. What Im running right now actually.
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Truthfully, MX was 100% painless for me. The installer ran like any other os and all functionality worked out of the box - zero tweaking which was a first for me and is why I've stuck with it on my older macs. MX Linux is awesome.
 
d5aqoëp said:
With current electronics shortage and all the major companies like Microsoft, Google, Nvidia pushing for cloud based subscription system, it really feels like Apple is caught pants down, dead last. Do they have any plans to tackle this ****storm? TBH, I get jitters just to use a dumb terminal with screen, kb, mouse and internet to stream your virtualised OS. Your data where each pdf, docx, jpg, png or any file belongs to Cloud service provider.

Apple is my only hope but how long do you guys think can Apple sustain these hardware product launches if OpenAI, MS, Google, Oracle, Anthropic, etc, etc keep on gobbling up every piece of components of this world? What if this bubble is somehow sustaining for another 10 years? Apple’s AI is a big failure and it seems like Apple has already missed that bus.
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Seriously? Go ahead and short AAPL and tell us how it works out for you...
 
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d5aqoëp said:
With current electronics shortage and all the major companies like Microsoft, Google, Nvidia pushing for cloud based subscription system, it really feels like Apple is caught pants down, dead last. Do they have any plans to tackle this ****storm?
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Apple will keep making devices that empower the people who use them. That's what they've always done and will always do.

If other companies want to go down the "you will own nothing and be happy route", Apple will happily still sell you devices worth owning.

What are you expecting them to do, other than stick to the principles they've always had?
 
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teh_hunterer said:
Apple will keep making devices that empower the people who use them. That's what they've always done and will always do.

If other companies want to go down the "you will own nothing and be happy route", Apple will happily still sell you devices worth owning.

What are you expecting them to do, other than stick to the principles they've always had?
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I want them to continue to make great hardware. But I fear that FOMO will hit Apple hard and they would also will want to jump on cloud bandwagon.
 
Certificate of Excellence said:
Free markets are resillient. If there is a shortage, that means there is money to be made and the market will figure out how to innovate and supply that demand. If we're short chips, I mean really "we'll never have enough" short, then the market will figure out how to make more. Why? Because there is money to be made and despite all the AI groupies believing ASI as the door way to a jobless UBI heaven tomorrow, that ship isnt even close to sailing so until then, free market forces will prevail. We'll figure it out and until we do, dont sell the computer you have now. Apple isn't going anywhere.
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Free markets were resilient from about 1989 to 2008.
 
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NervousFish2 said:
Free markets were resilient from about 1989 to 2008.
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and what exactly? Folks experience volatility that illustrated weakness and vulnerability which we then turn around, grow and are stronger from? I mean the markets have increased value over the past 20 years easily approaching if not exceeding 400% of what it was in 2008 - before the crash.

Markets are going no where. This thread is a nothing burger. We'll innovate ourselves out of this like we have with every other "crisis" before it. We can cry about the what ifs or we can see the value and opportunity standing right in front of us and take it.
 
d5aqoëp said:
I want them to continue to make great hardware. But I fear that FOMO will hit Apple hard and they would also will want to jump on cloud bandwagon.
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Apple doesn't have a history of jumping on bad bandwagons. That's not how they operate.

What exact "cloud bandwagon" are you expecting them to jump on?

Apple is not set up as a company to force users from local computing over to renting from the cloud. That's not what they're good at and even if they were interested in it, I don't see them being able to achieve it any time soon even if they started trying to mass hire talent for it yesterday.
 
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Doomed compared to who exactly? The RTX 5090 is reported to go up to $5,000 MSRP now. EVERYTHING computing is doomed if this is your view on things. There are rumors we will be going back to DDR 3 and DDR 4 memory and going back to 8GB of RAM on devices now.

I feel Apple is in the best position than any other computer manufacture in the future.
 
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teh_hunterer said:
Apple doesn't have a history of jumping on bad bandwagons. That's not how they operate.

What exact "cloud bandwagon" are you expecting them to jump on?

Apple is not set up as a company to force users from local computing over to renting from the cloud. That's not what they're good at and even if they were interested in it, I don't see them being able to achieve it any time soon even if they started trying to mass hire talent for it yesterday.
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The general trend nowadays is that you will only own thin clients now (akin to Chromebooks) and pay a monthly price to "rent" computing power in the cloud.

That seems to be the rumors and narrative on how companies will want to operate 5+ years from now. Personally, I can see this from NVIDIA and AMD perspective. We might truly be in bizarro world where Apple is the affordable computing option going forward. Especially now with the rumored RTX 5090 price increase to $5,000.
 
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Ethosik said:
The general trend nowadays is that you will only own thin clients now (akin to Chromebooks) and pay a monthly price to "rent" computing power in the cloud.

That seems to be the rumors and narrative on how companies will want to operate 5+ years from now. Personally, I can see this from NVIDIA and AMD perspective. We might truly be in bizarro world where Apple is the affordable computing option going forward. Especially now with the rumored RTX 5090 price increase to $5,000.
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You mean that "fancy new trend" like this one from 2011?
 
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