To some degree I'm trying to start a food fight. (Shame on me. ) However, my question is serious. Apple has been getting a lot of experience in iOS with applications that don't use a menu bar. It seems to be that there has been a trend from Lion to Mountain Lion to Mavericks to demphasize the menu bar. I'm not sure if that is a valid observation or not. I'm not sure whether or not I would like that to happen. I've been happy using the menu bar since my first Mac in 1985. On the other hand, I notice that I'm using it less these days because many applications have other more accessible controls. Any comments?