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I have a new theory as to why apple products cost so much:

Because so many of there products are returned faulty, they have to jack the price to compensate for the number of duds they ship, and hence have to replace free of charge.
 
Originally posted by manitoubalck
I have a new theory as to why apple products cost so much:

Because so many of there products are returned faulty, they have to jack the price to compensate for the number of duds they ship, and hence have to replace free of charge.

-manitoubalck

You may be right. I think there is some cost-sharing in AppleCare for this purpose as well.

However Apple uses premium, proven OEM parts - no skimping - always has. This is the primary driver of the cost.
 
I think Apple is at the best quality they've ever been at, remember, they actually shipped laptops that would catch on fire. We just have really high expectations for their products.
 
Originally posted by MacFan26
I think Apple is at the best quality they've ever been at, remember, they actually shipped laptops that would catch on fire. We just have really high expectations for their products.

while the apple gear now is better than the early to mid nineties, it is not as good as the gear from 1999 to about mid to late 2001 when the imac, ibook, g3 and g4 powerbooks, and emac came out

some not up to par macs have been 15 inch alubook, many icebooks, and osx 10.0 and 10.3 incarnations, and of course the classic os9 mode in osx
 
Originally posted by jefhatfield
while the apple gear now is better than the early to mid nineties, it is not as good as the gear from 1999 to about mid to late 2001

You're right that it's gone down in the last couple of years, hopefully they can get it back up again. There would be so many more switchers if they could see that the quality was that good.
 
Originally posted by MacFan26
You're right that it's gone down in the last couple of years, hopefully they can get it back up again. There would be so many more switchers if they could see that the quality was that good.

in those days i was in techie school and a techie and those late 90s macs up into 2001 never had any issues...i never had to go on any calls to fix them

but shortly after that, people starting having issues, starting with the os x beta and on after that, and then those logic board problems in various mac models...i don't know what happened but my guess is that apple inc found a cheaper vendor for some of those things and the incresing problems are the result of that

i would still buy ANY mac over ANY PCs unless i had to buy a PC due to software title or programming environment/compiler (apple quality is definitely in the worst slump since 96 or 97 but that can't last forever and when apple rebounds, the quality of mac vs PC won't be the gray area it seems to be now)

i think i will possibly have to do a lot of coding for windows, windows software patches, and other PC stuff, for instance and make up drivers for PC parts so my next computer purchase will have to be a PC and i don't much care which company it is but i am leaning towards a compaq or hp since the price is right and i don't need the gaming strength of an alienware laptop or the multimedia prowess of a sony vaio laptop

and i don't have the money for an ultra expensive mini laptop like some sonys and fujitsus or a super durable outdoor laptop like a panasonic toughbook

when my use of PCs is over after school, i will probably go for a 12 inch powerbook or ibook. but that is many years down the line so by then both models will be sporting G5s or G6s and carry 8 GB of ram out the door
 
I would not agree and i would agree

Powerbook quality i believe is indeed dropping, they say over at macworld that 3 out of 6 powerbooks they recieved had problems with them.
I have a Dual G5 and already Apple had to replace a faulty Processor whose thermometer broke, for those who have g5's this means you would be hearing your G5 like a hurricane with fans running at full power and man the fans are powerful, if you thought a vortex fan was good think again this baby could cool your room in a sec. That was the only problem with my Dual G5 so far.
 
After all the problems with the new powerbooks, I was happy that I just went ahead and bought the 15" 1 GHz Titanium. Since they have such a huge cash reserve, maybe they could work on raising the quality of their parts a little.
 
Originally posted by iGAV
heheheh... no.... :p ;)

you probably don't want to end up sitting in the same plane as me though.... just incase :eek: :eek: :p :p
Lottery drawing is tommorrow night, there are 52 numbers (Pick 5 - 1to52) in the first batch and 42 in the second (Pick 1).

Could you please choose $9 worth of lottery numbers. (the 5 + 1 for each $)

I think I'll choose my numbers out of whatever numbers iGAV decides not to use.
 
Originally posted by MacFan26
After all the problems with the new powerbooks, I was happy that I just went ahead and bought the 15" 1 GHz Titanium. Since they have such a huge cash reserve, maybe they could work on raising the quality of their parts a little.

it's the last TiBook revision that is giving me major hassle.... :rolleyes:

I don't think Apple ever really nailed the quality 100% on the Titanium, and the Aluminium seems to be suffering similar problems... :(
 
Originally posted by iGAV
it's the last TiBook revision that is giving me major hassle.... :rolleyes:

I don't think Apple ever really nailed the quality 100% on the Titanium, and the Aluminium seems to be suffering similar problems... :(

this is sacrelidge but with the spots on the screen due to pressure of tightness inside the lcd unit and the pitted lcd due to the design pushing up against the keys, maybe apple should make the powerbook ten percent thicker
 
I've purchased over 5 million dollars worth of Apple product over the last 6 years, everything from airports, the various laptops and desktops and other gear.
To answer your question in a word: No.
 
Originally posted by Les Kern
I've purchased over 5 million dollars worth of Apple product over the last 6 years, everything from airports, the various laptops and desktops and other gear.
To answer your question in a word: No.
You've got a bloody big house then...;)
 
Originally posted by caveman_uk
You've got a bloody big house then...;)

one of my high tech clients bought hundreds of PCs and macs in the mid 90s for their workforce to modernize them and in short order they got obsolete...gee, surprise, huh ;)

they are still using these machines because they are not paid for yet

they told me it occured to them, on that scale, that leasing was the better option because chairs, carpets, and cafeteria equipment last longer while computers, as shiny as they can make them look, get obsolete very quickly

another client i have leases their machines and they have kept up fairly decently and when a machine reaches 24 months old, they just turn it in, get a replacement and continue to pay the same rate of rent so that way they never go obsolete

they are up to mirror door G4s running os 9.2 and will stay there for another year and when they migrate to os x, it will be with g5s :)
 
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