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niblet

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Dec 24, 2013
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I have a 2012 15" rMBP with 16GB of RAM, and Simcity can only run at High settings. SimCity is not running at Retina resolution, and I am concerned that my MacBook will be unable to play graphics-intensive games in the future. Is performance normally this bad, or is this just a bad port of a PC game. Finally, would running SimCity in Bootcamp help much, and how good of an idea is BootCamp (I am concerned about messing up the computer, though I don't really know how I could)

Also, I am running the game at 1400x900 or whatever half the Retina resolution is. Full retina resolution is not even available in the game.
Thanks
 
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simon48

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Sep 1, 2010
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You have a laptop, you will never have great gaming performance on graphics intensive games. All computers stop being able to run graphics intensive games at some point, laptops sooner than desktops (if they ever could on day one).

High settings sounds about right for SimCity. SimCity is not a port, it's fully native. I'm sure Bootcamp would help some, but I'm not sure how much. You're already running at high settings so I'm not really sure what the point of using Bootcamp would be.

Bootcamp will not mess up your computer, you really think Apple would let that happen?
 

richard13

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Aug 1, 2008
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I agree with the other poster. Gaming on a laptop such as the MBP is never going to be an awesome experience. Laptops in general are bad gaming platforms. Once geared for gaming or otherwise labeled as "Desktop Replacement" will probably offer a better experience.

I did a little testing myself on my late 2013 rMBP and WoW on Good settings just about gets 30-35fps. No way could I run on High or Ultra settings and still have acceptable gameplay. SimCity is one game that I own but sadly have not played... yet. :eek: I bet what you are seeing is normal.
 

blooperz

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Dec 10, 2013
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Bootcamp makes a huge difference in most games, apple's Nvidia drivers are pretty bad when it comes to game optimization. Even after you install bootcamp, you will have to go to Nvidia's website and manually download the latest driver updates for windows as they are not included in the bootcamp windows support files.

IMO if you plan on doing any gaming do yourself a favor and install windows via bootcamp.
 

Freyqq

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Bootcamp makes a huge difference in most games, apple's Nvidia drivers are pretty bad when it comes to game optimization. Even after you install bootcamp, you will have to go to Nvidia's website and manually download the latest driver updates for windows as they are not included in the bootcamp windows support files.

IMO if you plan on doing any gaming do yourself a favor and install windows via bootcamp.

This. For me, Borderlands 2 has to run at much lower settings to run smoothly compared to Windows 8.1 (bootcamp).
 

Steve121178

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Apr 13, 2010
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SimCity is not running at Retina resolution, and I am concerned that my MacBook will be unable to play graphics-intensive games in the future. Is performance normally this bad, or is this just a bad port of a PC game.

Even though Mac's are capable of gaming, either nativly in OS X or Bootcamp, they are not ideally suited to graphically demanding games.

As for running Sim City at Retina resolution, are you seriously expecting to run that game at such a high resolution and expect good performance on your Mac''s weedy dGPU? Sim City is garbage anyway, so maybe your Mac is simply trying to save you from wasting your time on that atrocity.
 

leman

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Oct 14, 2008
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While I don't see a technical reason why a game like Simcity should not run at native resolution with the 650M, it is a quite bad port and combined with lower-performing OS X drivers, it makes such request quite unrealistic. Just play at 1680x1050 or so - it still looks much better then most 15" displays out there.
 

maflynn

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Disappointing to see this thread, I was somewhat tempted to finally take the plunge on SimCity (or at least wait for the purported offline mode update occurs but if performance on a 2012 rMBP is poor which is my computer then I'll skip this game
 

leman

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Oct 14, 2008
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Disappointing to see this thread, I was somewhat tempted to finally take the plunge on SimCity (or at least wait for the purported offline mode update occurs but if performance on a 2012 rMBP is poor which is my computer then I'll skip this game

Its not necessarily poor. Its runs quite 'ok' on 1680x1050. I am not very happy with the game, but for different reasons.
 

niblet

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Dec 24, 2013
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Even though Mac's are capable of gaming, either nativly in OS X or Bootcamp, they are not ideally suited to graphically demanding games.

As for running Sim City at Retina resolution, are you seriously expecting to run that game at such a high resolution and expect good performance on your Mac''s weedy dGPU? Sim City is garbage anyway, so maybe your Mac is simply trying to save you from wasting your time on that atrocity.
I am NOT running SimCity at Retina resolution. Also, is interface lag normal whilst using iMovie?
 

fenjen

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Nov 9, 2012
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Just install bootcamp. The performance difference is huge. The lack of good drivers and DirectX on OSX kills the performance. The Macbook is actually a pretty decent gaming laptop when running Windows, if you ask me.
 

maflynn

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May 3, 2009
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Its not necessarily poor. Its runs quite 'ok' on 1680x1050. I am not very happy with the game, but for different reasons.

I'll wait a bit to see if they really do come with offline mode. There are other factors that give me pause in buying the game. They're removed features compared to older versions of the game.
 
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