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Is Buggy Lion an OSX Antenna-gate?

Is Buggyy Lion an OSX Antenna-gate?

No: Lion is software, not hardware. As with any OS point release, bugs are fixed in subsequent patches.

Yes: Any issues affect a small percentage of users and are mostly Internet Rage ginned up on message boards.
 
tom5304 said:
Okay, we remember Antenna-gate, one of the names given to the attenuation problem some found when holding their iPhone 4 a certain way.

That antenna "problem" never bothered me much, because I've always just assumed that when you have a weak cell signal, you have to hold any phone in a certain way to keep the signal. No big deal, at least to me.

But the widely-experienced (if not widely-reported) bugginess of OSX Lion is an entirely different problem for Apple. I realize many (certainly a majority) of Lion upgraders are experiencing no problems with OSX Lion. However, a growing crowd of discontented users are taking to the internet and pointing out the many, many bugs being experienced in Lion.

My inability to maintain a Wifi connection in Lion can't be solved by holding my Airport card a certain way. The lagginess and delayed keystrokes and mouse-clicks I experienced in Lion can't be solved by holding my keyboard or mouse a certain way.

Searching through the many Apple and tech forums on the 'net, I am seeing a rising chorus of complaints about many obvious bugs in OSX Lion. I'm sensing that OSX Lion has created a lot of unhappy Mac users, and I'm just getting a feeling that their (our) complaints about Lion's broken bugginess may just reach critical mass within the next week.

So, is OSX Lion the Mac version of Antenna-gate? Will the many problems seen by so many in Lion go viral and become a PR problem for Apple?

P.S. And please, for the love of almighty God, spare us from your two line post that says: "Lion is working fine for me. Therefore, Lion has no problems." That's boring. I'm just asking if you think the bugginess is about to become more widely discussed, or if it's going to stay below the radar.
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Although I shouldn't feed the troll I will...

Have you ever upgraded OS's before? Apparently not. ANY OS will have bugs once it hits the public. Its simply not possible to release an OS without them, thats why there are things called "updates", and Apple generally is fast at releasing them.

Lion is working fine for most people, myself included. Sure there are a few bugs here and there, mostly just UI stuff but instead of crying about it on Macrumors I go to http://www.apple.com/feedback where I know Apple will see it and submit my feedback. Simple.



Resist said:
I would agree with this if it were Microsoft, which uses its OS with many combinations of different hardware. But, Apple is using its software with its own hardware. Doesn't sound like Apple properly tested Lion before releasing it. And in that sense, they are getting more like Microsoft.

Come on Apple take the time needed to properly test your software prior to release!
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You do realize it is impossible for any company to iron out all bugs before release? Lion can test flawless in the lab but as soon as its released and the public gets ahold of it, a public who has all kinds of configurations of hardware and software, then thats when the real bugs surface. Apple then gets bug reports by people either submitting them manually, or if the bug causes a crash, a crash report. This is how OS's from any software developer get fixed, with the publics help.
 
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Whilst i haven't encountered any of the bugs you detailed (keyboard lag & WiFI) I have had a weird bug recently where my desktop background changes to the background you get when transition from a non full screen to full screen app, the sort of textured background. This then causes Mission Control to break, the only way i can change desktop is to swipe fingers left/right.

Apart from that, i've only had one other bug and that's sometime i have to click multiple times to shut tabs in safari full screen. But that's more of a little annoyance than anything major. Battery life seems to be reduced, which is my major issue with Lion.

But in all seriousness, for those who were affected by Antennagate, it effectively rendered their phone useless they changed the way they used it. Where as the bugs in Lion don't make the OS inoperable for it's main purpose, like making a phone call was on the iPhone
 
Resist said:
I would agree with this if it were Microsoft, which uses its OS with many combinations of different hardware. But, Apple is using its software with its own hardware. Doesn't sound like Apple properly tested Lion before releasing it. And in that sense, they are getting more like Microsoft.

Come on Apple take the time needed to properly test your software prior to release!
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Yes, they're testing their own software with their own hardware. But they can't possibly test all those combinations along with myriads of different peripherals and third party software. I think that's where a lot of the problems are coming from. It's ridiculous to expect them to be able to test every single variable that exists. Overall for a .0 release, I think Lion is pretty good. Yes, there's some fixes needed. But expecting a perfect .0 release is impractical.
 
I've been monitoring my battery w/ Coconut battery and the capacity of my battery has gone from 95% to 87% in about 10 days use of Lion. I don't know if I need to get my battery recaliberated or something, but it is definitely concerning becasue I did not have this problem with SL. I thought I had an awesome and amazing battery, but it appears Lion might be causing it to deteriorate quicker than normal. PLUS, my battery life sucks w/ Lion liek everyone else.

I definitely didn't mean to post in this thread...
 
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I'm having zero problems with Lion. I connect to the lan using wi-fi or ethernet cat 5. Battery life seems about the same, and I don't notice the machine running any warmer. I'm not thrilled with all of the new features, but that isn't in the "bug" category. I'm impressed with how easily it installed on a 2009 13" MBP.

Remember that this is the .0 version and EVERY .0 version has its' share of problems and bugs. No matter how much testing Apple and the developers do, there will always be some bugs or applications that don't play with the new release.

When Snow Leopard first came out, there were lots of issues as well.
 
Zero issues here, now my uptime is of 9days and 2 hours, last time I rebooted the Mac? Lion installation, and I left the Mac turned on 24h/7, using it for 8-12 hours a day, I don't even close my apps, right now I have open:

Safari
Firefox
Chrome
Opera
Parallels
Adium
Twitter
Font Xplorer
Photoshop
Illustrator
Coda
Mamp
Billings
iTunes
Reeder
Transmission
Textedit

Everything is runing as good as was in SnowLeo
 
Sigh. One of these posts again?

Welcome to operating systems. Please see the entire history of such for an example. They have problems. The vast majority of people who are not having a problem are not going to post. This I believe always makes it seem like "everyone" is having a problem.

Everyone I know with Lion is very happy with it. I'm sure there are many people having a problem as well. Let's once and forgot all put this "gate" crap to rest. Please.
 
tom5304 said:
It's true that public opinion on Vista really exploded from about day one. But I think we can agree that Vista was much more of a disaster than Lion. Vista sucked for everyone. Lion just sucks for a small (unknown as yet) percentage of users.
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Lion sucks for editors (film/video/audio) as it is not a Qualified operating system, so no post production house can upgrade yet without major issues.

Some functionality in AVID MediaComposer is broken, and a few other Pro apps have broken functionality. FCP7 has froze on me a few times when cmd-R rendering, and some functionality of Pro Tools 8 LE is broken.

Something else Apple needs to get to work is with is FCPX being a bag of garbage (a cool bag of garbage mind you, i love the core rewrite, but not the amputation of features and settings)
 
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