Is changing Apple ID password supposed to be this big of a hassle?

[subjonas]

No idea what section to post this in, but…
When you change your Apple ID password, is it as big of a hassle for you as it is for me? I’m trying to figure out if I’m doing something wrong. The other day on my iPad, Apple prompted me to change my password (no idea why). I did, and then my other devices stopped syncing with my iPad (all the iCloud stuff—Keychain, Notes, etc), I presume because they are on the older password and need to be signed in with the new password. So I went to sign out of my Apple ID on my iPhone so that I could sign in with the new password, but then if I sign out it has to erase all the private data like Wallet, which means I have to re-enter and verify all my cards again, not just on my iPhone but on all my Apple devices. And I feel like I just had to do this recently, it’s a real pain. It shouldn’t be this much of a hassle to change a password, should it? Is this how it’s normally supposed to go? That’s kind of hard to believe for an Apple UX.
Not to mention, when I created a new password in the pop up prompt, I generated it with Keychain, but it didn’t update my Apple ID password that was already in Keychain, I had to delete that one and create a new entry.
I feel like much of this process could and should be easier—it should automatically updating the existing Keychain entry, and it should at least let me re-sign into my devices without having to sign out and wipe all the private data.
Any help or insight would be appreciated.

 

[GuruGuy]

No idea what section to post this in, but…
When you change your Apple ID password, is it as big of a hassle for you as it is for me? I’m trying to figure out if I’m doing something wrong. The other day on my iPad, Apple prompted me to change my password (no idea why). I did, and then my other devices stopped syncing with my iPad (all the iCloud stuff—Keychain, Notes, etc), I presume because they are on the older password and need to be signed in with the new password. So I went to sign out of my Apple ID on my iPhone so that I could sign in with the new password, but then if I sign out it has to erase all the private data like Wallet, which means I have to re-enter and verify all my cards again, not just on my iPhone but on all my Apple devices. And I feel like I just had to do this recently, it’s a real pain. It shouldn’t be this much of a hassle to change a password, should it? Is this how it’s normally supposed to go? That’s kind of hard to believe for an Apple UX.
Not to mention, when I created a new password in the pop up prompt, I generated it with Keychain, but it didn’t update my Apple ID password that was already in Keychain, I had to delete that one and create a new entry.
I feel like much of this process could and should be easier—it should automatically updating the existing Keychain entry, and it should at least let me re-sign into my devices without having to sign out and wipe all the private data.
Any help or insight would be appreciated.

Are you using Stolen Device Protection?

 

[subjonas]

Are you using Stolen Device Protection?

Do you mean Find My? Yes, it’s always activated on all my devices.

 

[GuruGuy]

Do you mean Find My? Yes, it’s always activated on all my devices.

No, Stolen Device Protection.

About Stolen Device Protection for iPhone - Apple Support

Stolen Device Protection adds a layer of security when your iPhone is away from familiar locations, such as home or work.

support.apple.com

Unless someone tried to hack you or apple thinks your password wasn't good enough, this may have been the reason. It "acts up" sometimes and forces a pw change.

 

[GuruGuy]

No idea what section to post this in, but…
When you change your Apple ID password, is it as big of a hassle for you as it is for me? I’m trying to figure out if I’m doing something wrong. The other day on my iPad, Apple prompted me to change my password (no idea why). I did, and then my other devices stopped syncing with my iPad (all the iCloud stuff—Keychain, Notes, etc), I presume because they are on the older password and need to be signed in with the new password. So I went to sign out of my Apple ID on my iPhone so that I could sign in with the new password, but then if I sign out it has to erase all the private data like Wallet, which means I have to re-enter and verify all my cards again, not just on my iPhone but on all my Apple devices. And I feel like I just had to do this recently, it’s a real pain. It shouldn’t be this much of a hassle to change a password, should it? Is this how it’s normally supposed to go? That’s kind of hard to believe for an Apple UX.
Not to mention, when I created a new password in the pop up prompt, I generated it with Keychain, but it didn’t update my Apple ID password that was already in Keychain, I had to delete that one and create a new entry.
I feel like much of this process could and should be easier—it should automatically updating the existing Keychain entry, and it should at least let me re-sign into my devices without having to sign out and wipe all the private data.
Any help or insight would be appreciated.

And to answer your original question, yes, it's a hassle if you have multiple apple devices and services.

 

[subjonas]

No, Stolen Device Protection.

About Stolen Device Protection for iPhone - Apple Support

Stolen Device Protection adds a layer of security when your iPhone is away from familiar locations, such as home or work.

support.apple.com

Unless someone tried to hack you or apple thinks your password wasn't good enough, this may have been the reason. It "acts up" sometimes and forces a pw change.

Ah forgot about that. Yes, it’s turned on on my phone. If that caused the forced pw change, it must have acted up because it was a pretty random time as nothing was out of the ordinary nor had changed for quite awhile as far as I can tell.

 

[subjonas]

And to answer your original question, yes, it's a hassle if you have multiple apple devices and services.

I really didn’t want to re-set up my Wallet on all my devices so I ended up doing a little experiment and changed my password again, but this time I did things a little different. First, I initiated it myself by going into Settings on my iPhone > Sign In & Security > Change Password, then when it asked me if I wanted to sign out of all my devices I clicked on Yes (I believe I clicked on No before). I think that last part was the key, I should have let it sign me out of all my devices the first time. I found out that doing that let me sign back into my devices with the new password the next time I used them, reinstating iCloud sync—all without having to manually sign out which would have wiped certain data/settings causing the hassle.

One thing that was annoying though was I couldn’t copy paste the long complicated generated password via Universal Clipboard to my devices because they were signed out of my Apple ID, I had to type the password in manually for each device.

But I think next time I‘m prompted to change my password, if possible I’m going to cancel and initiate the password change myself by going into the Apple ID password entry in my Keychain and clicking on change password, so that hopefully it will update the password right in the existing entry, and I’ll avoid having to go into Keychain separately, deleting the old Apple ID password entry, creating a new password entry, copying it, and going back to the dialog box and pasting the new password.

 

[bondr006]

A couple of months ago someone hacked my Apple account and I had to change my password. My goodness, I didn't have to go through all the stuff the OP did. I did not have to reset any info, and all my other Apple devices got the new password.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

No idea what section to post this in, but…
When you change your Apple ID password, is it as big of a hassle for you as it is for me?

Yes, I have found this business of Apple ID change to have been extraordinarily and tediously difficult.

 

[subjonas]

A couple of months ago someone hacked my Apple account and I had to change my password. My goodness, I didn't have to go through all the stuff the OP did. I did not have to reset any info, and all my other Apple devices got the new password.

So you never had to enter your new Apple ID password in any of your other devices? Interesting, I wonder what caused the difference between our experiences.
Also this is curious because it seems like it might be a security risk for all your other devices to automatically be signed in with the new password because resetting the password is sometimes done to ensure a lost or stolen device doesn’t have access to your account. Or maybe that’s why there’s that prompt that asks if you want to sign out of your account on all your other devices. But for me, choosing to not sign out resulted in all my other devices still using the old password.

 

[kitKAC]

I decided to update my Apple ID password this year, didn't sign out of any devices and I think the new password just propagated to all my other devices. I don't recall having to log back in anything at all. I think you just have to give it time.

 

[subjonas]

I decided to update my Apple ID password this year, didn't sign out of any devices and I think the new password just propagated to all my other devices. I don't recall having to log back in anything at all. I think you just have to give it time.

Interesting. How much time did you give it? I gave it over 24 hours, but couldn’t wait any longer because I needed to use my devices (specifically certain apps that weren’t syncing because the devices were on the old password).

But if no one else has had to go through this, maybe I experienced some sort of bug. I guess I could test it out by changing my password again, but… I’d rather not haha.

 

[bondr006]

A couple of months ago someone hacked my Apple account and I had to change my password. My goodness, I didn't have to go through all the stuff the OP did. I did not have to reset any info, and all my other Apple devices got the new password.

So you never had to enter your new Apple ID password in any of your other devices? Interesting, I wonder what caused the difference between our experiences.
Also this is curious because it seems like it might be a security risk for all your other devices to automatically be signed in with the new password because resetting the password is sometimes done to ensure a lost or stolen device doesn’t have access to your account. Or maybe that’s why there’s that prompt that asks if you want to sign out of your account on all your other devices. But for me, choosing to not sign out resulted in all my other devices still using the old password.

Not sure what I did differently. I just followed the prompts not really paying too much attention. I have my passwords saved in iCloud Keychain, and now the new password manager, which updated across my devices when I changed my password. Only thing I can figure out. Just thankful I didn't have to go through what you did.