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is chimera all that great?
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For those being brought into the UNIX world without prior knowledge...there are going to be alot of differences when it comes to the development of software. This is inherently true of open sourced software.
Most Mac users are used to software coming from a company designed to make money on its software. These people receive feedback on what needs to be done, what bugs there are, etc from support calls/emails and paid studies. This isn't going to happen in the open source world. IMHO there are many advantages to this as well as the obvious disadvantages. One is that you can go directly to the source and fix it yourself, if you are so inclined. Two is that you can file a bug report, thus initiating forward motion from the developers. These two inherently give much more power to the average user than has ever been offered before.
Most Mac users are used to software coming from a company designed to make money on its software. These people receive feedback on what needs to be done, what bugs there are, etc from support calls/emails and paid studies. This isn't going to happen in the open source world. IMHO there are many advantages to this as well as the obvious disadvantages. One is that you can go directly to the source and fix it yourself, if you are so inclined. Two is that you can file a bug report, thus initiating forward motion from the developers. These two inherently give much more power to the average user than has ever been offered before.
I am now. Though I was running a build from just 2 days ago. I will let you know if this build continues to work. I had a previous build that worked also but something changed on the www.comingsoon.net website and it quit working again. Even with the build 2 days ago it was able to open the site once and a while just fine and the rest of the time it would crash.
So the first couple times I tried the www.comingsoon.net website it loaded fine, but slow. I tried it again just a few minutes ago and it crashed even with the latest build.
Could be Java...
I went to comingsoon.net using Chimera 0.6, build 2002120804.
Some obeservations: I'm pretty sure there was a Java banner ad on the page (Antwone Fisher, and some digital clock thing... really ugly...). I think Chimera loads the Java VM in the background.... the HD thrashed like it was loading something (uncharacteristic of a typical HTML page being rendered in Chimera/Mozilla).
But it loaded. So just for kicks I went to (menu): Navigator --> Preferences --> Web Features and UN-checked "Enable Java". I then went back to the page and hit shift-reload over and over again to see if a) I could see any more/that Java ad and b) if it crashed anyway.
Neither happened. So, I'm taking a bit of a guess here, but the JVM might be barfing. Turn off Java and try going to htttp://www.comingsoon.net.
Just my .02
I went to comingsoon.net using Chimera 0.6, build 2002120804.
Some obeservations: I'm pretty sure there was a Java banner ad on the page (Antwone Fisher, and some digital clock thing... really ugly...). I think Chimera loads the Java VM in the background.... the HD thrashed like it was loading something (uncharacteristic of a typical HTML page being rendered in Chimera/Mozilla).
But it loaded. So just for kicks I went to (menu): Navigator --> Preferences --> Web Features and UN-checked "Enable Java". I then went back to the page and hit shift-reload over and over again to see if a) I could see any more/that Java ad and b) if it crashed anyway.
Neither happened. So, I'm taking a bit of a guess here, but the JVM might be barfing. Turn off Java and try going to htttp://www.comingsoon.net.
Just my .02
Re: Could be Java...
Thanks loads fine without java support turned on.
I had begun to wonder if maybe it was the flash plugin. Though I don't think there is any flash items on the page.
Thanks loads fine without java support turned on.
I had begun to wonder if maybe it was the flash plugin. Though I don't think there is any flash items on the page.
Java is eeeevil
Sometimes it can be difficult to recognize anything other than HTML these days... Java can be used for something as small as clickstream gathering, and Flash output is getting so complex I've been caught trying to 'view source' of a Flash app, not realizing what it was.
My suggestion is to just leave Java off, on Chimera and IE... it's flaky in both from my experience.
Incidentally, for anyone who doesn't know or forgot or is new to OS X, Chimera comes with a lot more useful features, you just gotta enable them. They're off by default.
Right-click (control-click) the striped area in the toolbar and choose Customize Toolbar. All the goodies are in there!
Sometimes it can be difficult to recognize anything other than HTML these days... Java can be used for something as small as clickstream gathering, and Flash output is getting so complex I've been caught trying to 'view source' of a Flash app, not realizing what it was.
My suggestion is to just leave Java off, on Chimera and IE... it's flaky in both from my experience.
Incidentally, for anyone who doesn't know or forgot or is new to OS X, Chimera comes with a lot more useful features, you just gotta enable them. They're off by default.
Right-click (control-click) the striped area in the toolbar and choose Customize Toolbar. All the goodies are in there!