Is downloading iOS 9 beta illegal if you don't have a developers account?

Discussion in 'iOS 9' started by mrmekul, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. mrmekul macrumors newbie

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    Hi, I was wondering if getting iOS 9 beta would be illegal if I don't have a developers account before the public beta release? Thanks
     
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  3. mrmekul thread starter macrumors newbie

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    How is it piracy?
     
  4. chrf097 macrumors 68040

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    Because technically piracy's definition is "The unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work".

    Since technically you aren't authorized, it is piracy.

    That begs the question though, if your UDID is validated legitimately, even without a developer account (i.e. a friend does it for you), is it really piracy then? Not a discussion for these forums, however.
     
  5. meysell macrumors member

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    yes and you're going to prison. kiss freedom goodbye, this is the price you pay for the cutting edge

    ...is an example of a reply you're bound to get. it's not that extreme but people are gonna make it out to be. officially you're not allowed to, it would be best to pick up a developer account if you can afford it! if not, July (and a slightly more stable beta) are just around the corner!
     
  6. ardchoille50 macrumors 68020

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    Access to content in a way that the content owner does not allow.
     
  7. mrmekul thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Are you sure that Apple would not allow it though? Post something that proves it.
     
  8. chrf097 macrumors 68040

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    The NDA agreement and the fact that it's designated "Developer's" and not "Public".
     
  9. Paradoxally macrumors 65816

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    It's not piracy, you're just violating the NDA.
     
  10. mrmekul thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Can you please give me some link where that says that please?
     
  11. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Were you given access to it by Apple? And there you have it.
     
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  13. mrmekul thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I am not asking any steps in order to run software, I am simply asking if it is illegal or not. That is not what I asked for anyway.
     
  14. ardchoille50 macrumors 68020

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    According to the staff (second post in this thread), it's considered piracy here, so it is not to be discussed.
     
  15. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    No, you are violating the NDA by talking about and showing non-developers iOS 9. It is piracy if you put it on your device without being a registered developer.

    Now with that being said, is Apple going to do anything about it? No, because they can't verify how your UDID was registered. You could be on a friend's or family member's developer account.
     
  16. lsutigerfan1976 macrumors 68000

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    Not sure if this a troll question. But every year ppl on this forum gets their panties in a bunch and lectures everyone about how you shouldn't use the beta file unless you are a developer. Yada yada, rabble rabble and so on. Truth is, if you can get your hand on the beta. You don't need developer account to install it. But be prepared to have it be buggy at first if you install it.
     
  17. mrmekul thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Ok, thank you to everyone who participated, there are mixed opinions so I don't have a definite answer.
     
  18. ardchoille50 macrumors 68020

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    You'll likely not get a definitive answer because some people have no morals.. no personal integrity. If you commit to an agreement (NDA in this case) then you should comply with the agreement. Keep your word.. its all a person truly has in life.
     
  19. Paradoxally macrumors 65816

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    It's a software beta, not a government secret. This isn't WikiLeaks. People are allowed to talk about the beta. They even are allowing public beta testing for this very reason later in July.

    As for installing, that's a whole new can of worms. Non-devs should not be installing this on their daily drivers.
     
  20. KALLT macrumors 601

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    Apple does not waive its copyright, so you need their permission to download (reproduce) the software. If you don't have that, it's a copyright infringement. The developer beta is given to you only as part of a developer licence, either one you signed yourself or as part of your employment. Everything else is unauthorised and per definition a copyright infringement. Whether that has any meaningful impact is of course another matter.
     
  21. naasrd macrumors 6502

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    What if you buy a secondhand device, legitimately running iOS 9, but sold on by a registered dev? Put that if your piracy pipe and smoke it.
     
  22. KALLT macrumors 601

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    Good question. Since it is the physical device you sell, it might fall under the first-sale doctrine and Apple could not prevent it. Most likely the developer will be in breach of the licence agreement by doing this. However, before you update your system, you have to agree to the licence terms again.
     
  23. ajiuo macrumors 65816

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    If it is... No one really cares... So go for it... Just don't expect Apple to offer you any technical support.
     
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    If you have to ask...
     

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