Is downloading iOS 9 beta illegal if you don't have a developers account?

mrmekul

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Hi, I was wondering if getting iOS 9 beta would be illegal if I don't have a developers account before the public beta release? Thanks
 

0000757

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How is it piracy?
Because technically piracy's definition is "The unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work".

Since technically you aren't authorized, it is piracy.

That begs the question though, if your UDID is validated legitimately, even without a developer account (i.e. a friend does it for you), is it really piracy then? Not a discussion for these forums, however.
 

meysell

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Hi, I was wondering if getting iOS 9 beta would be illegal if I don't have a developers account before the public beta release? Thanks
yes and you're going to prison. kiss freedom goodbye, this is the price you pay for the cutting edge

...is an example of a reply you're bound to get. it's not that extreme but people are gonna make it out to be. officially you're not allowed to, it would be best to pick up a developer account if you can afford it! if not, July (and a slightly more stable beta) are just around the corner!
 

mrmekul

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I am not asking any steps in order to run software, I am simply asking if it is illegal or not. That is not what I asked for anyway.
 

ardchoille50

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I am not asking any steps in order to run software, I am simply asking if it is illegal or not. That is not what I asked for anyway.
According to the staff (second post in this thread), it's considered piracy here, so it is not to be discussed.
 

Mlrollin91

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It's not piracy, you're just violating the NDA.
No, you are violating the NDA by talking about and showing non-developers iOS 9. It is piracy if you put it on your device without being a registered developer.

Now with that being said, is Apple going to do anything about it? No, because they can't verify how your UDID was registered. You could be on a friend's or family member's developer account.
 
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lsutigerfan1976

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Not sure if this a troll question. But every year ppl on this forum gets their panties in a bunch and lectures everyone about how you shouldn't use the beta file unless you are a developer. Yada yada, rabble rabble and so on. Truth is, if you can get your hand on the beta. You don't need developer account to install it. But be prepared to have it be buggy at first if you install it.
 

mrmekul

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Ok, thank you to everyone who participated, there are mixed opinions so I don't have a definite answer.
 

ardchoille50

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Ok, thank you to everyone who participated, there are mixed opinions so I don't have a definite answer.
You'll likely not get a definitive answer because some people have no morals.. no personal integrity. If you commit to an agreement (NDA in this case) then you should comply with the agreement. Keep your word.. its all a person truly has in life.
 

Paradoxally

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You'll likely not get a definitive answer because some people have no morals.. no personal integrity. If you commit to an agreement (NDA in this case) then you should comply with the agreement. Keep your word.. its all a person truly has in life.
It's a software beta, not a government secret. This isn't WikiLeaks. People are allowed to talk about the beta. They even are allowing public beta testing for this very reason later in July.

As for installing, that's a whole new can of worms. Non-devs should not be installing this on their daily drivers.
 

KALLT

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Apple does not waive its copyright, so you need their permission to download (reproduce) the software. If you don't have that, it's a copyright infringement. The developer beta is given to you only as part of a developer licence, either one you signed yourself or as part of your employment. Everything else is unauthorised and per definition a copyright infringement. Whether that has any meaningful impact is of course another matter.
 

naasrd

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What if you buy a secondhand device, legitimately running iOS 9, but sold on by a registered dev? Put that if your piracy pipe and smoke it.
 

KALLT

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What if you buy a secondhand device, legitimately running iOS 9, but sold on by a registered dev? Put that if your piracy pipe and smoke it.
Good question. Since it is the physical device you sell, it might fall under the first-sale doctrine and Apple could not prevent it. Most likely the developer will be in breach of the licence agreement by doing this. However, before you update your system, you have to agree to the licence terms again.
 

ajiuo

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If it is... No one really cares... So go for it... Just don't expect Apple to offer you any technical support.
 
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