No because if the other person has an iPhone 4, then you can start a video call in the middle of a voice call.
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Is Facetime free since its Mobile to Mobile?
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No because if the other person has an iPhone 4, then you can start a video call in the middle of a voice call.
sorry if i wasnt being clear, but that is what i meant. i wanted to say that even though the call is on a voice call, the facetime icon still remains there.
i think users will have to press facetime before the call initiates. that way it will get off of ATT network..
ahh i see, i did not know that. hmm.. well it will be interesting to see how they implement this all.
If you watch the keynote he makes a phone call then taps face time. So you are using voice minutes over 3G and video goes via wifi.
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You have to intiate it during a call. I would assume that will require your minutes.
You have to intiate it during a call. I would assume that will require your minutes.
I guarantee that when it comes to 3G it will NOT be free. I'm guessing ATT will make it a "bonus" to the higher rate data plans (the 2gig a month ones).
This will entice people to get the higher rate plans, and also entice us grandfathered unlimited rate plan users to switch off of that.
Plus, ATT and Apple will claim its moral since everyone can still use it over Wifi...
This will entice people to get the higher rate plans, and also entice us grandfathered unlimited rate plan users to switch off of that.
Plus, ATT and Apple will claim its moral since everyone can still use it over Wifi...
So there is no option to just FaceTime without calling?? Say the person is in another country...and u just want to FaceTime with them over WiFi
Any chance of them including a update with just INCOMING video on the 3GS and 3G over wi-fi so they will be able to see those with iPhone 4?? I hope a lot of people I know get the iPhone 4
Any chance of them including a update with just INCOMING video on the 3GS and 3G over wi-fi so they will be able to see those with iPhone 4?? I hope a lot of people I know get the iPhone 4
Could it be that you are making a call but the only way you're getting the video is over wifi? So you are using minutes but using wifi at the same time?
You obviously have absolutely no idea how cell phones work. There's no way the phone will magically be able to locate and connect to another phone number without cellular assistance.
You don't seem to be able to comprehend what you are quoting very well. Read above.
Since you want to be an arse... You obviously don't know how to read. On Apples very site it states: iPhone 4 and WiFi required for FaceTime; not iPhone 4 + WiFi + cellular/already on a call.
I'm also not going to go and post the 20 other pages where this was discussed, cellular connection will NOT be required.
Maybe you should also go and figure out how 10s of millions of FaceTime devices equals 10s of Millions of iPhones - it doesn't.
From a technical standpoint - your friend's iPhone 4 could have any IP address at all. There are only two ways for your phone to find out that address in order to initiate a FaceTime session. 1) Contact a central server that ever iPhone 4 contacts in order to tell it its IP address (this is how most IM programs work - you log in to a server.) Every indication is that this is NOT how Apple programmed FaceTime to work. 2) Since the phone company DOES know how to contact every phone on its network, your iPhone will have to make use of the cell network to establish an initial communication to exchange IP addresses, with which the FaceTime session is established.
So at some point, it seems to me 99% likely that a cell network connection IS required, there's no other way for your phone to know how to contact your friend's phone - it's immaterial whether you initiate a normal call first then hit the FaceTime button, or just hit the FaceTime button first, a cell connection is likely established either way. The question is, does it count as a voice call? If so, how long? A single minute, or for the entire conversation? Or does it count as a background type notification like how we get notified of a visual voicemail? Or does it count as a text-message?
Not like it really matters to speculate about it now - it is what it is, and we'll get more info about the mechanics when the phones are actually in users' hands.
So at some point, it seems to me 99% likely that a cell network connection IS required, there's no other way for your phone to know how to contact your friend's phone - it's immaterial whether you initiate a normal call first then hit the FaceTime button, or just hit the FaceTime button first, a cell connection is likely established either way. The question is, does it count as a voice call? If so, how long? A single minute, or for the entire conversation? Or does it count as a background type notification like how we get notified of a visual voicemail? Or does it count as a text-message?
Not like it really matters to speculate about it now - it is what it is, and we'll get more info about the mechanics when the phones are actually in users' hands.
Seeing as how you are unable to answer my question or refute my points, it's pretty clear you also have absolutely no idea how these devices work. It's not that you have to go through 20 pages, it's that you have no idea how to answer my post - LOL.
That is not accurate. You CAN use just the Facetime Application using your contacts if that person you want to have the video chat with also has an iPhone 4 and if you both have access to a wifi network.
IF you are already on a call and you have WiFI access and you want to switch to video chat, you can go right from the call to Facetime.
But you don't have to make a call to use it.
Because you didn't ask a thing on this thread.
And I know very well what I am quoting. Otherwise it wouldn't even fit here.
The quote was (and is) very self-explained, to the guy (wingnut8) I adressed it to. If it wasn't for you, then tough luck.
Accusing me while I'm correcting a false statement with the source quote, and you say I don't comprehend my own quoting ? Lol @ you.
I agree with those saying FaceTime is only accessible through a voice call like going on speaker phone after having already called someone, but it uses only WIFI. I guess we will find out the specifics of the tech involved and how it works with rules and networks and charges etc.
My question is this... Did anyone else notice that AFTER you start a FaceTime session, there is no way to go back to voice??? All there is is the button to end the call and it hangs up! Isn't that a bit of a problem? Am I missing something? I saw someone press that end call button in the footage and it indeed just ends the call, so there is no way back to a voice call once you start face time! Can anyone prove me wrong?
My question is this... Did anyone else notice that AFTER you start a FaceTime session, there is no way to go back to voice??? All there is is the button to end the call and it hangs up! Isn't that a bit of a problem?
Am I missing something? I saw someone press that end call button in the footage and it indeed just ends the call, so there is no way back to a voice call once you start face time! Can anyone prove me wrong? Attachments
Not only that... but Jobs himself said on the Keynote that 3G won't be available for this at launch.
You bring up a good point! Looks like that will probably be a small nuisance... and will probably take some people heading over to apple.com/feedback for that to be fixed/updated... I'm guessing but it seems likely...
My question is this... Did anyone else notice that AFTER you start a FaceTime session, there is no way to go back to voice??? All there is is the button to end the call and it hangs up! Isn't that a bit of a problem?