Is Files just iCloud Drive?

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  1. Pete Rodgers macrumors member

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    I’m not getting the Files app. All that appears is my iCloud Drive. Can’t I see my iPad app files too? I can open Dropbox files, but I can’t drag and drop them into google drive or iCloud Drive. Am I missing something? Is it just iCloud rebadged?
     
  2. sosumi99 macrumors 6502

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    You have to wait until Dropbox updates their app for iOS 11, at which point your Dropbox files should behave much like the iCloud files. Dropbox did say on their blog that an update is coming this week.
     
  3. Pete Rodgers thread starter macrumors member

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    Cool. Thanks. Do your app files remain invisible then?
     
  4. lambertjohn macrumors 6502a

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    But what if I don't want to store my files on any cloud services? What if I just want to store them locally on my iPad? I don't see any way to do that using IOS 11. Am I missing something?
     
  5. dancefreak macrumors regular

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    No. You're not missing anything. Files is just a way to consolidate and streamline cloud servers at this point. There's no directory of files on the device.
     
  6. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

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    Yeah, I'm kind of disappointed by Files. It's just iCloud Drive with the ability to also access cloud accounts. "Documents" by Readdle is a free app that's been around for ages that basically does the same thing while also letting you save files locally. This is not iOS finally getting a file manager as some have said.
     
  7. mattopotamus macrumors G5

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    It’s just a hub for all cloud services. For example google drive appears there if you have it.
     
  8. Fynd macrumors 6502

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    You need to use an app to create a local directory first. Once that’s done you’ll get a “On My iDevice” option on the left side and you can freely create folders and move things around after that. I attached a photo showing it.
     
  9. mattopotamus macrumors G5

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    Or if you use iCloud Drive it is a file system. I use it for all of my Mac files.
     
  10. dancefreak macrumors regular

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    Oh wow! Great to know. I didn't realize this functionality was there. Just tested by saving a doc to device in pages and works as described. I could move anything from icloud drive to on my device afterwards.

    There's still not functionality to create folders on the top device directory, but I guess it's a start. That said, I really don't see much usage for me here because I like to save to cloud anyway so that I can access files across multiple devices...but good for those who need it.
     
  11. Fynd macrumors 6502

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    Yea. I think all anyone would need to make good use of “On my iDevice” would be an app that’s basically just a shell that makes a “My Documents” folder or something in that location, then you work with whatever you want from in there.

    I’m like you, though, I work from the Cloud and this now does everything I want.
     
  12. xraydoc macrumors demi-god

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    Not seeing the photo on my end...
     
  13. RevTEG, Sep 19, 2017
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    Ok.. sorry for the dumb question but how do I save an individual Pages doc to my device? I can only find the operion to save all docs on device or in the cloud from the settings/Pages for my iPad. Thx

    Update… figured it out! Thanks for all the info.
     
  14. aevan macrumors 68030

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    No, you can store files locally. Install any app that supports local storage on iOS 11, like PDF Expert. You can create subfolders, store whatever you like in there, etc. The only thing different than Mac Finder is that you don't have access to root folder, meaning an app needs to create a starting folder. It's a bit weird at first, but basically, it works fine.

    Edit: sorry, just noticed others have already answered this :)
     
  15. kristalsoldier macrumors 6502

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    Could you please upload the pic you are referring to? It does not seem to be with your post. Thanks.
     
  16. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    I also thought we were going to get a real file manager but after reading about it, I realized that we were getting duped. I was shocked to hear that Apple was going to give us such a thing, I should have known better.
     
  17. Pete Rodgers thread starter macrumors member

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    I suppose Apple is on a tricky one here. They have to balance the security of sandboxed apps with the openness of a file system. It's a bit confusing at the moment, like iCloud was to start with. I doubt I'll be using it much other than to access my iCloud data.
     
  18. LostEchoes macrumors member

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    I used PDF Expert to create a folder, but I only got a folder within the PDF Expert folder, and no "On My Device" option.

    EDIT: to say that I'm trying this on my iPhone SE, not on iPad. Maybe this is the reason.
     
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    Also weird is that I can't really open files in their correct apps. Word and Excel files clicked in ICloud Drive or OneDrive don't open in Word or Excel, they open in Pages or Numbers.
     
  22. sdz macrumors 6502

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    That is so weird.

    Apple should just allow top level root access and then your „stuff“ folder could be placed more sensible.
     
  23. sam2428 macrumors 6502

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    This is very interesting if true. I am in the market to buy a new ipad pro and have been waiting to understand more about the iOS11 capabilities. If the files app is really just a way to access and store files through various cloud services, I wonder if getting a 256GB model is even worth it... (unless you like to store a lot of music / movies on your device).
     
  24. sdz macrumors 6502

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    You are able to store files locally. For example in „Documents.app“. But also there it is quite strange: You cannot move files without creating a copy and you cannot delete files.

    In my opinion Files.app is BETA. Or I don‘t understand the concept.
     
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    GoodReader is more of a files app then whatever the hell apple created ever could be. in goodreader you can store and upload files, create complex directories. open many file types right in the manager. its so much better. I thought apples file manager would replace GoodReader for me. no way in a million years could it replace it. apples file manager sucks so bad.
     

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