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KingYaba

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Aug 7, 2005
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The program isn't illegal. What you copy and circumvent can be illegal. It's the act methinks. The act of circumventing encryption of a DVD you do not own the copyright of.
 
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nick1516

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Sep 21, 2008
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In my opinion, if you own the dvd, you have the right to make a backup.
 
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nick1516

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Sep 21, 2008
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That's my opinion too

However, how does yours and my opinion hold up in the light of the law?

I'm not an expert or anything, but I think that under the "Fair Use" policy, you can make copies of media as long as they are for your personal use, and aren't given away or sold.
 
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CylonGlitch

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Jul 7, 2009
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I'm not an expert or anything, but I think that under the "Fair Use" policy, you can make copies of media as long as they are for your personal use, and aren't given away or sold.

Technically it is illegal to bypass copy protection; but fair use does allow for backups. I don't think you could get busted for copyright violation, but you can get busted for bypassing copy protection. Lame. You should be allowed to back up your investments.
 
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njean777

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Oct 17, 2009
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Its legal to have a backup of movies or music that you own, when you sell them, or try to make profit from them then it is illegal. Thats how i look at it.
 
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dukebound85

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Jul 17, 2005
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If it is illegal, then I have a few questions

1) Why are we allowed to talk about these apps? Most, if not all, who use these apps use it to bypass the protection for commercial backups

2) What are the chances of being "caught"

3) Is it a safe risk or should I not bother?

Its legal to have a backup of movies or music that you own, when you sell them, or try to make profit from them then it is illegal. Thats how i look at it.

Same here buuut our views don't mean squat as far as the law is concerned sadly
 
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ravenvii

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Mar 17, 2004
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If it is illegal, then I have a few questions

1) Why are we allowed to talk about these apps? Most, if not all, who use these apps use it to bypass the protection for commercial backups

Because the programs themselves are legal, and what most of us do is still a very "grey" area.

2) What are the chances of being "caught"

Unless you put 'em in a .torrent and let everyone have at 'em, zilch.

3) Is it a safe risk or should I not bother?

Safe as can be, to be honest.
 
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DKatri

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Sep 2, 2009
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If it is illegal, then I have a few questions

1) Why are we allowed to talk about these apps? Most, if not all, who use these apps use it to bypass the protection for commercial backups

2) What are the chances of being "caught"

3) Is it a safe risk or should I not bother?



Same here buuut our views don't mean squat as far as the law is concerned sadly

As stted above, programmes like this and even torrent clients are legal because there are legit reasons for using them. torrents are a really fast, secure and easy was of sending big files to people (ie collaborative projects such as music production/paper writing) and handbrake can be used to get data off of a disc.
They are legal tools that you can hypothetically of course) use for illegal purposes.
 
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