Is iOS 9 government proof :D

Discussion in 'iOS 9' started by vexorg, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. vexorg macrumors 6502a

    Aug 4, 2009
    How safe is IOS9? According to Edward Snowden, the governments have the power to remotely switch on your phone to look at the contents, to switch on the microphone and hear conversations, and to use theGPS to track your location, all through network exploits.

    It all reads as a crackpot movie story, although if it was all made up then the various governments wouldn't be trying to catch him, maybe. Has anyone ever heard of a real case where someone's iPhone has been spied on?
  2. Noble Actual macrumors 6502a

    Sep 10, 2014
    Nothing is full-prove.

    If someone really wanted to, they could, but they probably have better things to do than see your posts on MacRumors or selfies on Snapchat.

    Also, Snowden said he encrypted his data so it would be full-prove but Russian and Chinese intelligent already broke it so he's not that reliable.
  3. I7guy macrumors Core


    Nov 30, 2013
    Gotta be in it to win it
    Google would have heard of more than any anecdotal evidence told on this forum.
  4. vexorg thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Aug 4, 2009
    I would have said this was more tech savvy forum than whatever google throws up. But yeah, probably right, nothing but fluff and nonsense here :D
  5. AlliFlowers Contributor


    Jan 1, 2011
    L.A. (Lower Alabama)
    Do you mean fool-proof?
  6. Noble Actual macrumors 6502a

    Sep 10, 2014
    That sounds more right.
  7. CTHarrryH macrumors 68000

    Jul 4, 2012
    Gee from what I see on all the TV shows anything can be hacked in under 30 seconds - isn't that correct?

    Actually, I'd rather have the government hack me than all the crooks out there or Google or Facebook. Personally, I have nothing to hide from the government and if they want to waste time hacking me let them have fun.
  8. 0007776 Suspended


    Jul 11, 2006
    If the government is able to do those things it is likely through cooperation with the manufacturers so no update will fix it.
  9. The Doctor11 macrumors 603

    The Doctor11

    Dec 15, 2013
    New York
    Let's not underestimate the value of my macrumors post now :D
  10. Noble Actual macrumors 6502a

    Sep 10, 2014
    30 seconds and with green code because that's important.

    Friend and I were talking about it after watching an episode of House of Cards Season 3. If government has some software that can pinpoint facial recognition, damn that process that would required to do something even remotely close.

    Its funny because people who have zero knowledge of even basic code thinks the way for example iOS is created is just unthinkable.

    People who have some knowledge of software, those things are pretty normal but it gets crazier with the things we probably can do.
  11. vexorg thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Aug 4, 2009
    And all it takes is one disgruntled employee, or bribe, or lucky hack into someones account, and that kind of stuff gets in the wrong hands.
  12. haruhiko macrumors 601


    Sep 29, 2009
    I've read through Apple's privacy website. They have explained everything clearly, except in the section about government data request due to national security - they only provided a rough number of past requests with no additional information about what data were given / not given. Apple said in the website that it is the limitation of the law.
  13. naasrd macrumors 6502


    Apr 30, 2008
    Dublin, Ireland
    This has always been the case with phones. Long before the iPhone police could monitor calls this way.
  14. vexorg thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Aug 4, 2009
    There's a difference between passively tapping a call, and actively controlling a phone. I thought the digital phone calls were encrypted, that's why digital wasn't liked by governments.

    It would be interesting to know what is possible with the current phones, and what is media hype, or only exist in the world of CSI tv shows.
  15. AndyB2007 macrumors newbie

    Oct 13, 2011
    Even if digital calls are encrypted, it depends on between which points and where the government is sat. Your call from your mobile phone to your supplier may have some form of encryption stopping a random radio receiver listener, but true encryption would require end to end encryption to stop anyone listening in along the line.

    As for taking over your phone... possible? yes - its technology and there are always flaws to be exploited, whether those flaws have been found and exploited... happening? the answer depends on how much tin foil you are wearing, personally I think they have people working on it (they would be foolish not to), but they probably have far more efficient ways of getting intelligence.

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