Is iPad (Pro) valid for my work?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by oskarbar, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. oskarbar macrumors newbie

    Feb 21, 2018
    Hi, Im thinking about getting one iPad Pro, and using it as complement of my main computer at work.

    Things I think I could do with the iPad Pro (advice needed):

    - Mail
    - Office suite: word, excel (including MACROS), powerpoint
    - PDF creation, editting and digital signing
    - 2D CAD editing and measuring: Autocad
    - 3D CAD Viewers: Naviswork, viewing 3D models from SP3D, PDMS, PDS.

    Other things that I'll be surprised if I could do with the iPad, but dont think so:

    - Electrical systems calculations: ETAP, CDEGS, PSS, ABB DOC.
    - Electrical Relays settings definition: Schneider Easergy Studio, GE Enervista

    Reading now my post, I have realized that certainly my work is very technical and specific.. and I'm afraid that the iPad Pro was not designed with focus on engineering activities... A Virtual Machine in the iPad Pro for running Mac/Windows programs could make the job (I think that the iPad is powerful enough), but don´t see Apple doing this...

    What do you think about this profile? Is the iPad useless or do you have any kind of good experience as complementary device?

  2. Aluminum213 macrumors 68040


    Mar 16, 2012
    Doing all that would be hell on the iPad, save yourself the headache and get a laptop instead
  3. oskarbar thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 21, 2018
    Maybe I'm one of that users that needs a truck (PC), as Jobs said years ago... I feel that the entire sector of engineers/architects are out of the Apple market target...
  4. mofunk macrumors 68020


    Aug 26, 2009
    I would find someone or a group that is actually doing those engineering Apps. I couldn't see why not when you have music and video apps capable of running on an iPad. I don't think the iPad would be your sole source but more of a mobile device to your MacBook Pro. I run music and photography on my iPad but I still need to use my MBP. My workflow and how I store my data is my main reasons for needing both. Sorry I'm not a Windows user. I've used them before at work and found Apple Apps more effective for my workflow.

    I'm not sure but you can try to also see if the Apple store has most of these Apps you can try on their demo iPads or if they have a class showing the uses.

    Planning or mapping out is the best way to see how the iPad pro could work for you.
  5. mk313 macrumors 6502a

    Feb 6, 2012
    I’m pretty sure excel on it and doesn’t do macros. So the iPad won’t fit your use case.
  6. Newtons Apple, Feb 21, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2018

    Newtons Apple macrumors Core

    Newtons Apple

    Mar 12, 2014
    Jacksonville, Florida
    No possible way. You will still need a computer for years, you answered your own question.

    I do AutoCAD and the iPad could not cope with anything except the most simple needs.

    Boy the day a tablet could do all you want . . . . .
  7. 960design macrumors 68030

    Apr 17, 2012
    Destin, FL
    This. Not that the iPad Pro could not do it. The interface is fat fingers and dragging. Not technical 3D manipulation. Sure you can do it, you can also take a school bus to a race track. It might be fun for a bit, but not really something to daily drive.
  8. oskarbar thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 21, 2018
    Guys, thanks for your replies. Like you said, I answered myself in the moment of writing the post. It’s just that perhaps the necessary horsepower it’s already in the device, but the problem resides in the OS...

    We will see how do converge MacOS and iOS in the future...

  9. mofunk macrumors 68020


    Aug 26, 2009
    Could it also be the developers? They are the ones designing the Apps. Maybe they are limiting the features for a reason? iOS devices are added faster than the desktops and maybe the developers just don't want to put all that in and then have to update them every time a new device comes out. I had a several Apps that didn't update to 64bit. Adobe moved Lightroom to the Cloud...and I am guessing they lost a lot of customers who prefer working on their PCs and having a physical copy of LR.
  10. Precursor macrumors 6502a


    Sep 29, 2015
    If you long for something ultra portable, go for the 12 inch Macbook. It is more than capable for your work and is a beast for its size. Check the Macbook forums for reviews.
  11. sjleworthy macrumors 65816


    Dec 5, 2008
    Penarth, Wales, UK

    I'm an architect/pro designer by trade. i LOVE my iPad Pro, but for anything technical and visual (ie - drawings), use a desktop or lap top.

    My iPad Pro is my constant companion in work here sitting on my desk next to my workhorse windows pc. i use it for comms. email. internet. diary. skype, client correspondence etc etc

    Anything else productive like excel sheets with macros, PDF creation, Photoshopping, 2D/3D CAD work etc then i wouldnt even consider trying an iPad.
  12. ApfelKuchen macrumors 68030

    Aug 28, 2012
    Between the coasts
    I don't think a convergence of macOS and iOS will be what does it. Though Apple is moving towards a "code once/distribute on all" model, there are factors at work that are independent of which OS is in use.

    I think CPU horsepower isn't the issue it once was (let's face it, no Mac laptop has the power of a 12-core Xeon workstation, either), and with tools like Pencil and an external keyboard there's plenty of room for precision input. The issue, as I see it, still has a fair amount to do with storage space, or rather, ensuring that people with entry-level-capacity iPhones and iPads are still supported. A "rich feature set" is effectively equivalent to large downloads, and professionals demand rich feature sets. There are also matters like the execution of macros that are tied to the fundamental security design of iOS. On the macro front we have Apple's purchase of the Workflows app, which I think will graduate to an API. However, it likely wouldn't be compatible with existing, third-party scripting/macro languages.

    On the hardware side, an iPad Pro can be had with as much as 512 GB storage, but entry-level is still 64 GB, so even pro-oriented apps have to take that into account. And while iOS is much less RAM-hungry than macOS, 4 GB is still the ceiling rather than the floor in iOS devices. Further, download bandwidth is also a concern, especially for download via a cellular data account.

    Apple has put major efforts into ensuring developers deliver lean, efficient code and that app updates will be compact, something that has had a positive impact on coding for all platforms. Still, unless modularized into separate, inter-operating apps, professional apps are likely to be outliers, by necessity.

    As to your list of the apps you require for work... Database-focused apps have been moving to web/cloud-delivered models for quite some time; if not already available, continued adoption of iPad for highly mobile workers (factory floor, job site, etc.) will push those resources in that direction. But I think "creative" apps like AutoCad for iOS are going to continue to focus on the kind of work that is practical on a small display with touch and speech as the primary input methods. Open and modify existing documents? Yes. Create initial concepts? Yes. The deep nitty-gritty of producing professional designs (especially when integrated with manufacturing systems) that has been keyboard/mouse-centric for many decades will likely remain desktop OS work for a bit longer.
  13. TinaBelcher macrumors 6502a

    Jul 23, 2017
    No one should replace their laptop with an iPad for work. It’s unrealistic. And you obviously wanna reach your deadlines.
  14. oskarbar thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 21, 2018
    Yep... the "post-pc era" is most marketing than reality...
  15. KitnB macrumors newbie

    Sep 26, 2017
    New York, NY
    You can use OnShape for 3D CAD projects on the iPad Pro. So an iPad Pro for your work use case is doable.
  16. KitnB macrumors newbie

    Sep 26, 2017
    New York, NY
    Not true! Just because it doesn’t work for you doesn’t mean it doesn’t work for others. I run a small business with 4 employees solely using an iPad Pro so you don’t know what you’re talking about in regards to me and other business users/owners like me.

    Put simply, it really all depends on the your exact use case and the programs you require. I’m able to get everything I need done using “iWork” apps (Pages, Numbers, etc.), Notability, Nebo, GoodNotes, etc. The iPad Pro works flawlessly for this and I do recommend it IF you have a similar workflow.

    If not, stick to a full fledged PC or MAC.
  17. Ghost31 macrumors 68020


    Jun 9, 2015
    What kind of business do you run?
  18. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan

    Jul 4, 2015
    You won't get cursor-like pixel precision for 3D geometry and CAD.
  19. ericwn macrumors 68020

    Apr 24, 2016
    Generalisations like these are often proven wrong on these forum pages already. As if we didn’t already have many users who have replaced their notebooks with iPads. It just depends on what you do and what can be accomplished by you and your tool together.
  20. TiggrToo macrumors 6502a


    Aug 24, 2017
    Out there...way out there
    My iPad Pro compliments what I do at work - I couldn't do many of my meetings without it. When doing interviews, holding one-on-ones with my team, annual reviews etc. It becomes an invaluable tool in my arsnal.

    That said, that's all it is - another valuable tool. I spend a lot of time coding on various Database Systems as well and for that I need a full sized keyboard and software that can handle me switching between windows very quickly.

    Ones day perhaps, but that day is not today.
  21. Marshall73 macrumors 65832


    Apr 20, 2015
    The iPad Pro can handle a lot of stuff and you can navigate Fairly complex auto and drawings but for actual editing etc you need a laptop. We went through options with a client who is running exactly what you are and he tried out iPads, macs and windows laptops. In the end he went for an HP Zbook with an intel core i7, 16gb ram, 500GB SSD, AMD firePro 2GB with a 1920x1080 14” screen for £1059 + VAT. He runs the full auto and suite alongside office 2016.

    He choose that laptop based on its size, performance and price. He liked the MacBook Pro 15” but the price was prohibitive and he has used windows more than MacOS.
  22. Brammy macrumors 68000

    Sep 17, 2008
    AutoCAD work is a big fail on iOS. The app is rudimentary at best and in reality barely usable for things other than checking dimensions and making notes on a job site.

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