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Is it legal to sell an iphone on ebay with the include purchased apps?

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applesupergeek

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Is it legal to sell an iphone on ebay with the include purchased apps? I have been reading the fine print in apple's agreement and I am uncertain about this... Has anyone tried it? It would seem it's ok since you can sell a mac with the purchased software (parallels, pages, etc.) to sweeten the deal.

If anyone has tried it I would love to hear for them, as well as how they 've sorted out the logistics to do with the store account. Thanks.:apple:
 
Only if you are transferring the licenses (this is true of a Mac as well). To do this with the iPhone the only way to do it would be to hand over your entire iTunes account. Note that if you don't do that the new owner will not be able to update the apps...
 
robbieduncan said:
Only if you are transferring the licenses (this is true of a Mac as well). To do this with the iPhone the only way to do it would be to hand over your entire iTunes account. Note that if you don't do that the new owner will not be able to update the apps...
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Hey thanks so much for the reply, appreciate it, what does tranferring the licences mean, eg. on a mac, I 've bought parallels say and I want to transfer the license (which is under my name) to someone else, what do I do, contact the parallels people?

And in the case of the itunes store, if I tranfer the account, I just set a new password, and mail (belonging to the buyer) and delete my cc info. I am bit worried about privacy though, I would rather sell the phone with the apps and include a disclaimer that they cannot update the apps but they can still use them... Would that be ok?
 
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They can't even sync without your account. They'll lose the apps.
 
fishkorp said:
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They can't even sync without your account. They'll lose the apps.
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can't they do a transfer purchases to their itunes, and then set up their own account?
 
applesupergeek said:
Then I guess I will have to delete my cc info and pass them over my store account... I hope this is feasible.
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Yep - you know you'll need to pay for apps all over again right? You can also contact Apple to see what they say about the situation at hand.
 
You better check the iTunes license agreement. I seem to recall Apple doesn’t grant you a license to transfer iTunes content (like they usually do software), and everything in the store is non-transferable.

Whether or not eBay notices in your auction is another matter.

I believe someone tried to sell an iTunes song on eBay a few years ago and they yanked it down.
 
Yes I do realise I ll have to buy them again, but some of them I don't want in the first place.

jaw04005 said:
You better check the iTunes license agreement. I seem to recall Apple doesn’t grant you a license to transfer iTunes content (like they usually do software), and everything in the store is non-transferable.

Whether or not eBay notices in your auction is another matter.

I believe someone tried to sell an iTunes song on eBay a few years ago and they yanked it down.
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I have read it very carefully, and I did come across something close to what you are saying, but, as you might expect, it's all legal speak, and I can't be confident that I understand it. I can make an informed guess, but that's where lawyers always get you, in informed guesses...

That's why I was hoping someone with similar experience could verify or negate this.
 
If I were buying it I wouldn't want to have to abandon my own iTunes account just to get your apps. You can only sync it with one account, so I would have to pick not having the stuff I already have or not having your bundled stuff.

It's a flawed sales tactic to include paid apps no matter how you look at it.
 
RaceTripper said:
If I were buying it I wouldn't one to have to abandon my own iTunes account just to get your apps. You can only sync it with one account, so I would have to pick not having the stuff I already have or not having your bundled stuff.

It's a flawed sales tactic to include paid apps no matter how you look at it.
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You reckon? I thought it would give an nice extra incentive to have a phone full of some great paid apps, but then again I don't know much about sales. I also thought you could merge itunes accounts, and transfer purchase from one to the other.
 
applesupergeek said:
You reckon? I thought it would give an nice extra incentive to have a phone full of some great paid apps, but then again I don't know much about sales. I also thought you could merge itunes accounts, and transfer purchase from one to the other.
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Yes, I reckon! You cannot merge accounts. You can authorize accounts for sharing iTunes on computers (e.g. both my wife and my accounts can be used to playback on the AppleTV).

Your "incentive" only makes sense for someone who has no iTunes account purchases. There is no extra incentive if I have to lose my own apps. It's just replacing what I think I should have on my iPhone with what you think should be on it. For example, do you have Navigon with all the in-app purchases? If you do, I'll bet you don't have some of the other expensive iPhone apps I use.

Bottom line: Don't count on making money based on any apps you've bought.
 
It doesn't matter anyways because it won't sell for any more money regardless of what apps you say are installed on it.
 
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