Is it nuts to not get Vega?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by MAcNIAC, Dec 11, 2018.

  1. MAcNIAC macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2006
    Location:
    Australia
    #1
    i can get a non Vega 15” as a refurb ... which makes the cost difference substantial.
    I intend to use the mbp for 4K video editing ... i’m Only just getting into video - bought a new gopro.
    I have several hours of footage to turn into a video of my recent trekking holiday.

    I am not a pro ... at least not at anything that needs a mbp.
    I will keep it for 4plus years ...

    Your advice is appreciated
     
  2. Qaulity macrumors member

    Qaulity

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2018
    #2

    Based on YouTube videos the Vega makes a huge difference if you use Premiere but not so much if you use FCP. I would get the Vega regardless since it has a massive memory bandwidth upgrade compared to the 560X. Another option would be to get an eGPU when it makes sense to you, of course you'll be stuck at a desk but if you're running 4K footage or thinking about going to 8K footage the Vega will make a huge difference in the long term.

    check this
     
  3. Ploki macrumors 68040

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    #3
    Yes.

    Premiere on mac doesnt support gpu accel to the degree fcpx does - it should be the other way around.
     
  4. unglued macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2016
  5. Qaulity macrumors member

    Qaulity

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2018
    #5
    hmm, you're probably right I remember seeing a video about FCPX not showing much improvement over the previous generation.
     
  6. Ploki macrumors 68040

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    #6
    That was the first video when the throttling was still super-bad.
    and adobe is *!=#)% at utilizing GPU acceleration on macOS - it's much better on windows.

    FCPX however should benefit A LOT from Vega, recent hands-on videos show realtime playback of footage that 560X cant even handle.
     
  7. MAcNIAC thread starter macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2006
    Location:
    Australia
    #7
    Thanks for the input guys ... will have to look seriously at new Vega vs refurb 560 and see if the $ work
     
  8. pendragon1984 macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2013
    #8
    If you plan to do any gaming in bootcamp, Vega 20 is where it's at. We're talking 1050ti performance.
     
  9. maflynn Moderator

    maflynn

    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Location:
    Boston
    #9
    While I missed out on the Vega club, since I bought my MBP early on. I have to say I'm content with what I have and in all likelihood, I would have skipped on the upgrade to the Vega anyways. The base MBP is more then enough for my needs
     
  10. leman macrumors G3

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    #10
    Vega Pro 20 is a must buy if you do something that relies on high real-time GPU performance. For instance, if you want to have smooth preview when working with high-res, complex videos. Vega will accelerate your offline rendering, sure, but if you are a hobbyist and don't work with super-high-res, then probably you won't care much whether you rendering takes 30 seconds or 20 seconds, right?

    Funnily enough, the most clear-cut case is you wanting to play some games on your MBP in your spare time :) Vega Pro 20 is definitely a must buy then.
     
  11. PeterJP macrumors 6502

    PeterJP

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2012
    Location:
    Leuven, Belgium
    #11
    The problem is that Vega is much more costly than what it shows on the Apple website. I'm considering 2 setups: base 15" mbp with 32/1024 versus the same with Vega. The Apple website tells me it's €420 for Vega. But I would also have to add the 560X (€120) and the 2.6GHz i7 (€140) to upgrade from the base spec to a spec where I can actually get the Vega.

    So for me, Vega20 costs €680. That's a lot of money.

    In your case, because the non-Vega machine is refurb, it's probably even more.
     
  12. PowerMike G5 macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2005
    Location:
    New York, NY
    #12
    I would think about how much you'd use the machine as a workhouse for any work. I'm all about saving every dollar, but if the increased speed from Vega benefits your work on a daily basis, that extra cost fades away quickly.
     
  13. MichaelDT macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    #13
    If you're not a pro and are just using this at home, buy the macbook pro you want disregarding graphics. Then save some money and later buy an upgradable egpu (not that blackmagic trash) and monitor (any 4k with a good color response.) You'll be better off in the long run, a built in gpu looks slow by comparison pretty quick but with an upgradable card you can just sell the old one and buy a new one at will. Sometimes you buy a computer for 4 years, then 7 years later you're still using it... Also you save your macbook pro from heat this way, I've seen generation after generation of mbp die of gpu heat, most notable the notorious 2011's, but it's always been a problem in all notebooks.
     
  14. MAcNIAC thread starter macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2006
    Location:
    Australia
    #14
    Yeah exactly ... the bundled upgrades add substantially... think I’ll go base refurb ...

    Thanks guys re external GPUs - May well add one down the track
     
  15. CrysisDeu macrumors member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2018
    #15
    if you play game, vega20, if not, 555x and save money
     

Share This Page

14 December 11, 2018