Is it nuts to not get Vega?

[MAcNIAC]

i can get a non Vega 15” as a refurb ... which makes the cost difference substantial.
I intend to use the mbp for 4K video editing ... i’m Only just getting into video - bought a new gopro.
I have several hours of footage to turn into a video of my recent trekking holiday.

I am not a pro ... at least not at anything that needs a mbp.
I will keep it for 4plus years ...

Your advice is appreciated

 

[Qaulity]

i can get a non Vega 15” as a refurb ... which makes the cost difference substantial.
I intend to use the mbp for 4K video editing ... i’m Only just getting into video - bought a new gopro.
I have several hours of footage to turn into a video of my recent trekking holiday.

I am not a pro ... at least not at anything that needs a mbp.
I will keep it for 4plus years ...

Your advice is appreciated

Based on YouTube videos the Vega makes a huge difference if you use Premiere but not so much if you use FCP. I would get the Vega regardless since it has a massive memory bandwidth upgrade compared to the 560X. Another option would be to get an eGPU when it makes sense to you, of course you'll be stuck at a desk but if you're running 4K footage or thinking about going to 8K footage the Vega will make a huge difference in the long term.

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[Ploki]

Yes.

Based on YouTube videos the Vega makes a huge difference if you use Premiere but not so much if you use FCP. I would get the Vega regardless since it has a massive memory bandwidth upgrade compared to the 560X. Another option would be to get an eGPU when it makes sense to you, of course you'll be stuck at a desk but if you're running 4K footage or thinking about going to 8K footage the Vega will make a huge difference in the long term.

check this

Premiere on mac doesnt support gpu accel to the degree fcpx does - it should be the other way around.

 

[unglued]

Yes Vega 20 join the fast club.

 

[Qaulity]

Yes.


Premiere on mac doesnt support gpu accel to the degree fcpx does - it should be the other way around.

hmm, you're probably right I remember seeing a video about FCPX not showing much improvement over the previous generation.

 

[Ploki]

hmm, you're probably right I remember seeing a video about FCPX not showing much improvement over the previous generation.

That was the first video when the throttling was still super-bad.
and adobe is *!=#)% at utilizing GPU acceleration on macOS - it's much better on windows.

FCPX however should benefit A LOT from Vega, recent hands-on videos show realtime playback of footage that 560X cant even handle.

 

[MAcNIAC]

Thanks for the input guys ... will have to look seriously at new Vega vs refurb 560 and see if the $ work

 

[pendragon1984]

If you plan to do any gaming in bootcamp, Vega 20 is where it's at. We're talking 1050ti performance.

 

[maflynn]

While I missed out on the Vega club, since I bought my MBP early on. I have to say I'm content with what I have and in all likelihood, I would have skipped on the upgrade to the Vega anyways. The base MBP is more then enough for my needs

 

[leman]

Vega Pro 20 is a must buy if you do something that relies on high real-time GPU performance. For instance, if you want to have smooth preview when working with high-res, complex videos. Vega will accelerate your offline rendering, sure, but if you are a hobbyist and don't work with super-high-res, then probably you won't care much whether you rendering takes 30 seconds or 20 seconds, right?

Funnily enough, the most clear-cut case is you wanting to play some games on your MBP in your spare time Vega Pro 20 is definitely a must buy then.

 

[PeterJP]

The problem is that Vega is much more costly than what it shows on the Apple website. I'm considering 2 setups: base 15" mbp with 32/1024 versus the same with Vega. The Apple website tells me it's €420 for Vega. But I would also have to add the 560X (€120) and the 2.6GHz i7 (€140) to upgrade from the base spec to a spec where I can actually get the Vega.

So for me, Vega20 costs €680. That's a lot of money.

In your case, because the non-Vega machine is refurb, it's probably even more.

 

[PowerMike G5]

The problem is that Vega is much more costly than what it shows on the Apple website. I'm considering 2 setups: base 15" mbp with 32/1024 versus the same with Vega. The Apple website tells me it's €420 for Vega. But I would also have to add the 560X (€120) and the 2.6GHz i7 (€140) to upgrade from the base spec to a spec where I can actually get the Vega.

So for me, Vega20 costs €680. That's a lot of money.

In your case, because the non-Vega machine is refurb, it's probably even more.

I would think about how much you'd use the machine as a workhouse for any work. I'm all about saving every dollar, but if the increased speed from Vega benefits your work on a daily basis, that extra cost fades away quickly.

 

[MichaelDT]

If you're not a pro and are just using this at home, buy the macbook pro you want disregarding graphics. Then save some money and later buy an upgradable egpu (not that blackmagic trash) and monitor (any 4k with a good color response.) You'll be better off in the long run, a built in gpu looks slow by comparison pretty quick but with an upgradable card you can just sell the old one and buy a new one at will. Sometimes you buy a computer for 4 years, then 7 years later you're still using it... Also you save your macbook pro from heat this way, I've seen generation after generation of mbp die of gpu heat, most notable the notorious 2011's, but it's always been a problem in all notebooks.

 

[MAcNIAC]

The problem is that Vega is much more costly than what it shows on the Apple website. I'm considering 2 setups: base 15" mbp with 32/1024 versus the same with Vega. The Apple website tells me it's €420 for Vega. But I would also have to add the 560X (€120) and the 2.6GHz i7 (€140) to upgrade from the base spec to a spec where I can actually get the Vega.

So for me, Vega20 costs €680. That's a lot of money.

In your case, because the non-Vega machine is refurb, it's probably even more.

Yeah exactly ... the bundled upgrades add substantially... think I’ll go base refurb ...

Thanks guys re external GPUs - May well add one down the track

 

[CrysisDeu]

if you play game, vega20, if not, 555x and save money