Is it ok if i use safari 4.1.3 on tiger?

[iMaclover1]

Hi there.

Recently, i bought an imac g4 700mhz PPC with 512mb of ram. I was advised to run TenFourFox but it is a massive memory hog and about every 5 seconds, i get the spinning ball. I was wondering if it was ok for me to run safari 4.1.3 and disable java and other plugins? If it is ok for me to use it, is there a way that i can get ad block plus and a virus checker like bitdefender, dr web and WOT?

Thanks!

 

[jrsx]

Hi there.

Recently, i bought an imac g4 700mhz PPC with 512mb of ram. I was advised to run TenFourFox but it is a massive memory hog and about every 5 seconds, i get the spinning ball. I was wondering if it was ok for me to run safari 4.1.3 and disable java and other plugins? If it is ok for me to use it, is there a way that i can get ad block plus and a virus checker like bitdefender, dr web and WOT?

Thanks!

It is fine to use Safari on your mac. You don't really need virus protection plans, as long as your security updates are up to date on your machine. You can also a browser called WebKit, which is basically up-to-date Safari, and still gets updates.

 

[iMaclover1]

It is fine to use Safari on your mac. You don't really need virus protection plans, as long as your security updates are up to date on your machine. You can also a browser called WebKit, which is basically up-to-date Safari, and still gets updates.

Hi there. Thanks for your quick reply! I will download webkit and see how it goes. Is there a way that i can install add-ons like ad block plus?

Thanks

 

[jrsx]

Hmmm, not that I know of, but the WebKit engine is different from Mozilla's engines and Chrome's engines. If you want Adblock plus, use tenfourfox.

 

[And]

It is fine to use Safari on your mac. You don't really need virus protection plans, as long as your security updates are up to date on your machine. You can also a browser called WebKit, which is basically up-to-date Safari, and still gets updates.

Are Apple still issuing security updates for powerpc safari?

 

[eyoungren]

Are Apple still issuing security updates for powerpc safari?

No.

And to jrsx, does Leopard Webkit run on Tiger? I thought it was just for Leopard.

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Hi there. Thanks for your quick reply! I will download webkit and see how it goes. Is there a way that i can install add-ons like ad block plus?

Thanks

No. Safari 5 first introduced addons. You could try Glimmerblocker, which is an adblocking System Preference. Note that Glimmerblocker works system wide, not just on the browser. That means it works no matter which browser you use.

However, Glimmerblocker doesn't like to tick off the advertisers, so you either have to figure it out to get the same kind of blocking you'd get from ABP or just live with some of the ads.

Last note, were you using ABP with TenFourFox? If so, realize that ABP has a memory leak. I would try using ABE (AdBlockEdge) instead. Also, Ghostery has a significant memory leak as well, if you use that.

 

[jrsx]

No.

And to jrsx, does Leopard Webkit run on Tiger? I thought it was just for Leopard.

There is a version of WebKit for Tiger on their website.

 

[Intell]

I would not recommend it due to the security flaws within WebKit and the Safari shell.

There is a version of WebKit for Tiger on their website.

That version hasn't been updated in a few years and is rather insecure now.

 

[jrsx]

I would not recommend it due to the security flaws within WebKit and the Safari shell.



That version hasn't been updated in a few years and is rather insecure now.

If you need a fast browser, Safari is definitely the way to go. I would suggest either WebKit or Safari for the OP because of speed, and everyone says the security is bad on Safari, but its really no all that bad. But if you are concerned, TenFourFox or Webkit is your friend. The version of WebKit on their website my be outdated, I don't know, but there is a Powerpc version which still receives regular updates.

 

[Intell]

If you need a fast browser, Safari is definitely the way to go. I would suggest either WebKit or Safari for the OP because of speed, and everyone says the security is bad on Safari, but its really no all that bad. But if you are concerned, TenFourFox or Webkit is your friend. The version of WebKit on their website my be outdated, I don't know, but there is a Powerpc version which still receives regular updates.

There isn't a Tiger version that still gets updates. That has been untouched for years. Tiger's stock Safari isn't much, if any, faster than TenFourFox on the same machine.

 

[jrsx]

There isn't a Tiger version that still gets updates. That has been untouched for years. Tiger's stock Safari isn't much, if any, faster than TenFourFox on the same machine.

I tested Safari on my G4, its about 3 times faster at loading web pages like this site, a google search, or the powerpc archive. Safari's a LOT faster I'd say, but If you want something more modern, sacrifice some speed for TenFourFox.

 

[Intell]

I tested Safari on my G4, its about 3 times faster at loading web pages like this site, a google search, or the powerpc archive. Safari's a LOT faster I'd say, but If you want something more modern, sacrifice some speed for TenFourFox.

I've had the opposite experience on a G3, two G4's, and a G5. Stock Safari was the overall slowest.

 

[jrsx]

How bizarre.

 

[eyoungren]

I tested Safari on my G4, its about 3 times faster at loading web pages like this site, a google search, or the powerpc archive. Safari's a LOT faster I'd say, but If you want something more modern, sacrifice some speed for TenFourFox.

Safari is crap on my Leopard Mac. It's been crap since I first used it and remained crap throughout 10.2, 10.3, 10.4 and now 10.5.

Slow to load, never loads completely, tells you it only has X objects to load then changes that number on you, then stalls out on the second to last object to load.

Endless "Slow Script" warnings where clicking Stop or Continue does absolutely nothing and don't even get me started on how it does NOT handle Google, one of the major sites I use.

I know others use it and it does well for them, and great for you. But Safari and I have NEVER gotten along and I don't ever see it getting any better.

 

[jrsx]

Hmmm, the only problems I've ever had continuously in Safari is: Google chats won't send messages except through Gmail, and it loads a blank page on some sites like this one, which can be fixed by disabling javascript.

 

[eyoungren]

Hmmm, the only problems I've ever had continuously in Safari is: Google chats won't send messages except through Gmail, and it loads a blank page on some sites like this one,…

Oh, I know it works for everyone else. It's just never worked well for me. And I've never cared about it (because I'm biased towards Mozilla browsers) enough to try and fix it.

…which can be fixed by disabling javascript.

Er…that wouldn't work for me on Facebook. Facebook is JS driven. Turning it off means no Facebook.

 

[Intell]

Hmmm, the only problems I've ever had continuously in Safari is: Google chats won't send messages except through Gmail, and it loads a blank page on some sites like this one, which can be fixed by disabling javascript.

Turning off Javascript is like turning off the modern internet. Most things break or don't load. Even TenFourFox speeds up drastically with JavaScript turned off.

 

[jrsx]

Yes, turning off javascript is a nightmare, but sometimes it has to happen, otherwise I get a white page. I'm not at all against TenFourFox, I love it! It seems to do everything right for me, just at a lower speed, but that can be sacrificed...
to eyoungren: Its a good thing I don't have a facebook!

 

[eyoungren]

to eyoungren: Its a good thing I don't have a facebook!

LOL! Yes, sometimes I think, maybe I should shut JS off when I visit FB. Maybe I could get some work done!