Is it or is it not a 4G network phone?

[skidbubble]

This little nugget of information is not easy to find. On this forum, there have been threads insisting that it is, in fact, a 4G phone. Apple seems to be making this information hard to find.

So the bottom line, yes or no, is it or is it not a 4G network phone?

 

[asleep]

Not.

 

[Intell]

According to AT&T's marketing numbers, it is a 4G phone. But according to the ICT, no mobile at this time is a true 4G phone.

 

[Cougarcat]

4G is just a marketing term. It uses HSPA+ which is faster, but not as fast as LTE.

 

[rudedude]

The iPhone 4S is not a 4G network phone, it is only 3G. It is however an update to the 4th generation iPhone, that may be what you were seeing posted. The actual iPhone 4S is the 5th generation iPhone.

 

[profets]

The whole 3G vs 4G has really lost true meaning with all the marketing and BS behind it.

If you're even asking whether its 4G or not truly means that it doesn't really matter.

Straight answer: It's up to 14.4mbps HSPA+.

 

[Mortalias]

It is just as fast as any "4G" phone on the market today. That's all you need to know.

 

[Menel]

This little nugget of information is not easy to find. On this forum, there have been threads insisting that it is, in fact, a 4G phone. Apple seems to be making this information hard to find. So the bottom line, yes or no, is it or is it not a 4G network phone?

Yes, it is. By the ITU standards body, ATT, Sprint, Samsung's, Motorola's, and HTCs definition of 4G.

But 4G is meaningless. HSPA+, LTE, WIIMAX, LTE-Advanced and maybe more are ALL 4G!

IPhone 4S is a HSPA+ phone.

 

[profets]

4G is just a marketing term. It uses HSPA+ which is faster, but not as fast as LTE.

Yes, it is. By the ITU standards body, ATT, Sprint, Samsung's, Motorola's, and HTCs definition of 4G.

But 4G is meaningless. HSPA+, LTE, WIIMAX, LTE-Advanced and maybe more are ALL 4G!

IPhone 4S is a HSPA+ phone.

Guys, do we know for certain that its hspa+ 14.4mbps or technically just hspa 14mbps? At the end of the day it's not going to change our experience with it at all, just curious exactly which standard they've set it as.

 

[Menel]

Guys, do we know for certain that its hspa+ 14.4mbps or technically just hspa 14mbps? At the end of the day it's not going to change our experience with it at all, just curious exactly which standard they've set it as.

Yes, iphone 4S uses the same Qualcomm MDM6600 chipset the iphone 4 CDMA used, just has firmware added and antennas setup to use its capabilities now.

Feel free to google the specs on it. It is HSPA+ 14.4.

 

[webitorgal]

According to Canadian carrier, Rogers, the 4s is NOT a 4G phone. In Rogers-speak, LTE is 4G.

 

[lilo777]

Guys, do we know for certain that its hspa+ 14.4mbps or technically just hspa 14mbps? At the end of the day it's not going to change our experience with it at all, just curious exactly which standard they've set it as.

It's just HSDPA. Phones with HSPA+ (like Samsung Galaxy SII) have speed limit at 21Mbps.

 

[Menel]

According to Canadian carrier, Rogers, the 4s is NOT a 4G phone. In Rogers-speak, LTE is 4G.

You are wrong,mwelcome to 6mo ago. Rogers calls their HSPA+ network 4G.

http://redboard.rogers.com/2011/our-take-on-4g-and-lte/

 

[Intell]

It's just HSDPA. Phones with HSPA+ (like Samsung Galaxy SII) have speed limit at 21Mbps.

Its HSPA+. Apple states its maximum downlink speed is 14.4. 14.4 is a revision 7 3G speed. Revision 7 is HSPA+. If Apple said the max speed was 14.0, then it would be HSDPA.

 

[profets]

Yes, iphone 4S uses the same Qualcomm MDM6600 chipset the iphone 4 CDMA used, just has firmware added and antennas setup to use its capabilities now.

Feel free to google the specs on it. It is HSPA+ 14.4.

That's cool, knew it was the MDM6600 but didn't realize it was listed officially with HSPA+. Also didn't realize the 14.4 is a limitation of the MDM6600, was wondering why they didn't go for 21mbps which seemed more common now.

According to Canadian carrier, Rogers, the 4s is NOT a 4G phone. In Rogers-speak, LTE is 4G.

Haha, ahh rogers. I think they've been calling HSPA+ 4G as well. Mostly to follow suit with the other carriers and not look like they were left out.

 

[lilo777]

Its HSPA+. Apple states its maximum downlink speed is 14.4. 14.4 is a revision 7 3G speed. Revision 7 is HSPA+. If Apple said the max speed was 14.0, then it would be HSDPA.

Just go to apple.com and see for yourself. here is what they say:

UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz);
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz)4

Link

 

[Intell]

Just go to apple.com and see for yourself. here is what they say:

UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz);
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz)

That's the downlink part of HSPA+. If it really was a HSDPA device, Apple would have stated its maximum downlink speed as 14.0Mbits/s. But they stated it as 14.4, which is a HSPA+ speed.