Is it or is it not a 4G network phone?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by skidbubble, Oct 5, 2011.

  1. skidbubble macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    May 17, 2010
    #1
    This little nugget of information is not easy to find. On this forum, there have been threads insisting that it is, in fact, a 4G phone. Apple seems to be making this information hard to find.

    So the bottom line, yes or no, is it or is it not a 4G network phone? :confused:
     
  2. Intell macrumors P6

    Intell

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2010
    Location:
    Inside
    #3
    According to AT&T's marketing numbers, it is a 4G phone. But according to the ICT, no mobile at this time is a true 4G phone.
     
  3. Cougarcat macrumors 604

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2003
    #4
    4G is just a marketing term. It uses HSPA+ which is faster, but not as fast as LTE.
     
  4. rudedude macrumors newbie

    rudedude

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2010
    #5
    The iPhone 4S is not a 4G network phone, it is only 3G. It is however an update to the 4th generation iPhone, that may be what you were seeing posted. The actual iPhone 4S is the 5th generation iPhone.
     
  5. profets, Oct 5, 2011
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2011

    profets macrumors 68040

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2009
    #6
    The whole 3G vs 4G has really lost true meaning with all the marketing and BS behind it.

    If you're even asking whether its 4G or not truly means that it doesn't really matter.

    Straight answer: It's up to 14.4mbps HSPA+.
     
  6. Mortalias macrumors 6502

    Mortalias

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2011
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    #7
    It is just as fast as any "4G" phone on the market today. That's all you need to know.
     
  7. Menel macrumors 603

    Menel

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Location:
    ATL
    #8
    Yes, it is. By the ITU standards body, ATT, Sprint, Samsung's, Motorola's, and HTCs definition of 4G.

    But 4G is meaningless. HSPA+, LTE, WIIMAX, LTE-Advanced and maybe more are ALL 4G!

    IPhone 4S is a HSPA+ phone.
     
  8. profets macrumors 68040

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2009
    #9
    Guys, do we know for certain that its hspa+ 14.4mbps or technically just hspa 14mbps? At the end of the day it's not going to change our experience with it at all, just curious exactly which standard they've set it as.
     
  9. Menel macrumors 603

    Menel

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Location:
    ATL
    #10
    Yes, iphone 4S uses the same Qualcomm MDM6600 chipset the iphone 4 CDMA used, just has firmware added and antennas setup to use its capabilities now.

    Feel free to google the specs on it. It is HSPA+ 14.4.
     
  10. webitorgal macrumors regular

    webitorgal

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2011
    #11
    According to Canadian carrier, Rogers, the 4s is NOT a 4G phone. In Rogers-speak, LTE is 4G.
     
  11. lilo777 macrumors 603

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2009
    #12
    It's just HSDPA. Phones with HSPA+ (like Samsung Galaxy SII) have speed limit at 21Mbps.
     
  12. Menel macrumors 603

    Menel

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Location:
    ATL
    #13
  13. Intell macrumors P6

    Intell

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2010
    Location:
    Inside
    #14
    Its HSPA+. Apple states its maximum downlink speed is 14.4. 14.4 is a revision 7 3G speed. Revision 7 is HSPA+. If Apple said the max speed was 14.0, then it would be HSDPA.
     
  14. profets macrumors 68040

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2009
    #15
    That's cool, knew it was the MDM6600 but didn't realize it was listed officially with HSPA+. Also didn't realize the 14.4 is a limitation of the MDM6600, was wondering why they didn't go for 21mbps which seemed more common now.

    Haha, ahh rogers. I think they've been calling HSPA+ 4G as well. Mostly to follow suit with the other carriers and not look like they were left out.
     
  15. lilo777 macrumors 603

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2009
    #16
    Just go to apple.com and see for yourself. here is what they say:

    UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz);
    GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
    CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz)4

    Link
     
  16. Intell macrumors P6

    Intell

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2010
    Location:
    Inside
    #17
    That's the downlink part of HSPA+. If it really was a HSDPA device, Apple would have stated its maximum downlink speed as 14.0Mbits/s. But they stated it as 14.4, which is a HSPA+ speed.
     

Share This Page