Is it possible that Apple would have a non removable sim?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by waloshin, Sep 30, 2011.

  1. waloshin macrumors 68040

    Oct 9, 2008
    Is it possible that Apple would have a non removable sim in the future iphone?
  2. cward0715 macrumors regular

    Jul 18, 2010
    Honest question, doesn't a "world phone" have to be sim-less? Assuming the next iteration of the iPhone is one.
  3. LivingLarge macrumors member

    Apr 20, 2010
    There was talks about apple wanting to have the sim permanently in the iphone, but some GSM committees or some collaboration of mobile phone operators, were against it, so it probably won't happen anytime soon, if at all.
  4. thewitt macrumors 68020


    Sep 13, 2011
    It's definitely possible. There is a specification for a programmable GSM SIM that Apple was involved in creating. There is also a dual radio chip set that does GSM and CDMA, so no SIM and dual network are both possibilities.

    Note that not all carriers are ready to handle an embedded SIM card, so there may be some acceptance issues depending on the programming mechanism. If Apple does something really revolutionary and allows carriers to program the SIM through an Apple website or something like that, it would speed adoption.

  5. Certinfy macrumors 6502a


    Jan 29, 2011
    If Apple do this I think it's fair to say they'll lose me and many others as customers.
  6. wvphysics macrumors regular

    Jul 7, 2010
    The embedded sim is reprogramable. The carriers disliked the idea because it made it easier for people to switch carriers or something. If a customer is able to reprogram it then no big deal. If customers are not able to, then it wouldnt be much different than having a cdma phone.
  7. sentinelsx macrumors 68010

    Feb 28, 2011

    I wonder what that means for unlocked iPhones. Do they stop selling those, or the SIMs are removable, or reprogrammable by the customer?

    An embedded SIM doesn't look like a good thing, just like the micro SIM (it is a big hassle while changing phones/carriers with having to re-buy the standard and micro sizes or use a SIM adapter/cut up a SIM).
  8. d0vr macrumors 6502a

    Feb 24, 2011
    Sucks for you then. We get free sim swaps here in Australia. If you have a normal sized sim and need a micro sim, just go to your local store and ask for a swap here :) What's the cost for you?

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