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The Lions Den

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Only the T-mobile iphone on Apple.com will let you purchase the phone without needing a carrier.
 

Mlrollin91

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Nov 20, 2008
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SIM Free isn't available yet and will probably be a minimum of 2 weeks. SIM free units typically become available once stock has recovered. So if it's like the iPhone 6 it probably won't be available until Jan.
 

kendo88

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Jun 22, 2010
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SIM Free isn't available yet and will probably be a minimum of 2 weeks. SIM free units typically become available once stock has recovered. So if it's like the iPhone 6 it probably won't be available until Jan.
well whats the difference between sim free and paying full price for an unlocked one?
 

Abs_p

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Jul 15, 2011
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SIM Free isn't available yet and will probably be a minimum of 2 weeks. SIM free units typically become available once stock has recovered. So if it's like the iPhone 6 it probably won't be available until Jan.

iPhone 6S was available within a couple of weeks of launch. AFAIK 8th October was when they launched it.

well whats the difference between sim free and paying full price for an unlocked one?

Almost no difference. Only thing this year is GSM and GSM+CDMA are two different models so if you buy a T-MO unlocked, it will work on T-MO and AT&T and all other GSM carriers but not on Verizon or Sprint.

If you buy a true SIM-Free or a full price Verizon it will be a true universal phone that works on GSM and CDMA.
 

kendo88

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Jun 22, 2010
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iPhone 6S was available within a couple of weeks of launch. AFAIK 8th October was when they launched it.



Almost no difference. Only thing this year is GSM and GSM+CDMA are two different models so if you buy a T-MO unlocked, it will work on T-MO and AT&T and all other GSM carriers but not on Verizon or Sprint.

If you buy a true SIM-Free or a full price Verizon it will be a true universal phone that works on GSM and CDMA.
Ok. So I am travelling to the US next week, there for a couple of weeks, hoping to be able to pick one up in the store, unlocked to bring back to the UK, buying an unlocked GSM will be the same as a sim free for me?
 

Mlrollin91

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Nov 20, 2008
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iPhone 6S was available within a couple of weeks of launch. AFAIK 8th October was when they launched it.
As I said. A minimum of 2 weeks. But 6s' never sold out last year on pre-order. That's why they were available earlier. I'm willing to bet it will be closer to Jan this year like the iPhone 6.
 

Abs_p

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Jul 15, 2011
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Ok. So I am travelling to the US next week, there for a couple of weeks, hoping to be able to pick one up in the store, unlocked to bring back to the UK, buying an unlocked GSM will be the same as a sim free for me?

Just go to the apple store and ask for a full price verizon or T-mo. Don't mention unlock or anything.
 

joe8232

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Jun 21, 2005
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For the Uk you'll be fine buying the T-Mobile one, it just won't work with Verizon here in the US. I'm a Brit Living in the US and use 3 in Uk and T-Mobile here.
 

mobidutch

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Sep 23, 2012
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Ok. So I am travelling to the US next week, there for a couple of weeks, hoping to be able to pick one up in the store, unlocked to bring back to the UK, buying an unlocked GSM will be the same as a sim free for me?
Yes, you could buy ANY iPhone 7 model at any of the 4 major carriers, and it will work in the UK. Not sure if carriers will let you buy one without a contract though.
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
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Just go to the apple store and ask for a full price verizon or T-mo. Don't mention unlock or anything.
TMO is still the GSM only device. He would need a sprint or Verizon device. And Apple won't sell either without being part of that carrier.
 

duaneu

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Jun 19, 2010
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Just go to the apple store and ask for a full price verizon or T-mo. Don't mention unlock or anything.
Yes, don't ask for an unlocked phone, they'll pretend it's not possible. Use the words "device only".
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TMO is still the GSM only device. He would need a sprint or Verizon device. And Apple won't sell either without being part of that carrier.
You can buy them in store, just not online.
 
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Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
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Yes, don't ask for an unlocked phone, they'll pretend it's not possible. Use the words "device only".
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You can buy them in store, just not online.

Are you sure? I know others that said they couldn't.
 

Scott6666

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Feb 2, 2008
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From what I can see in the ordering process it's not even possible to get a new phone number online preorder even paying full price. You must be upgrading an existing phone number to check out.
 

Abs_p

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Jul 15, 2011
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From what I can see in the ordering process it's not even possible to get a new phone number online preorder even paying full price. You must be upgrading an existing phone number to check out.

You can get a T-MO one. I ordered 2x Full Price T-mo without even having tmobile.
 

kendo88

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Jun 22, 2010
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Coventry
TMO is still the GSM only device. He would need a sprint or Verizon device. And Apple won't sell either without being part of that carrier.
Not sure that is correct. I would want a T-Mobile or AT&T device as these are the same GSM models as sold in the UK.

I would want model A1784 which is T-Mobile/AT&T.

Model A1661 is the sprint/Verizon/us cellular/boost variant which is not compatible in the UK
 

willmtaylor

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Oct 31, 2009
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As I said. A minimum of 2 weeks. But 6s' never sold out last year on pre-order. That's why they were available earlier. I'm willing to bet it will be closer to Jan this year like the iPhone 6.
2 years ago it was January. Last year it was first week of October. Time will tell this year.
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
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Not sure that is correct. I would want a T-Mobile or AT&T device as these are the same GSM models as sold in the UK.

I would want model A1784 which is T-Mobile/AT&T.

Model A1661 is the sprint/Verizon/us cellular/boost variant which is not compatible in the UK

I thought it was confirmed that the CDMA was GSM+CDMA. A true world phone. While the GSM is literally only GSM.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/att-and-tmobile-iphone-7-models-lack-cdma/

Both phones share the same bands except A1661 offers CDMA and GSM.
 

kendo88

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Jun 22, 2010
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