Macrumors says "Don't Buy". Its 541 days since the ATV 4 was launched. Does the fact that there is evidence a new 4k version is being developed mean that its coming soon? The average days between releases is skewed by the fact that Tim's Apple took 1097 days between releases. I'd like to sell my remaining Apple TV3's and upgrade them to ATV4's from the refurb store, but not if the new one is coming out tomorrow. But I don't want to wait forever either. Under Steve it was a year to a year and a half, under Tim who knows. If I do buy them I'll have to also buy some of the competitors boxes too that actually have UK catchup apps, unlike the Apple TV - WTF Tim.