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Is it safe to run OS X ML on a primary computer?
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I see why you're called Bear
So maybe (just maybe) this BRAND NEW MAC USER doesn't know that in order to run ML he'd have to be a Developer. Maybe, it would be a good idea to gently let the NEW GUY know that there is a requirement to use a Developer Preview. I guess we could just chop him up and mail him to Apple (or Mac Rumors) to punish him.
The IMPORTANT part of his question is "Hey, is it a good idea to use this OS as my primary one, or should I stick with Lion." He didn't ask, "hey my buddy's got a copy of this and I want to put it on the intertoobz so EVERYONE can have a copy..."
Now the NEW GUY knows it's not a great idea and why. He also knows MOST of the forum users around here can be helpful.
Yes, he's wrong for pirating, and now he knows. But your attitude about it is MORE wrong. Would YOU like to be treated like you treated him? I'm sure I could find something to drop a hammer on you about... Oh wait, I am!
So maybe (just maybe) this BRAND NEW MAC USER doesn't know that in order to run ML he'd have to be a Developer. Maybe, it would be a good idea to gently let the NEW GUY know that there is a requirement to use a Developer Preview. I guess we could just chop him up and mail him to Apple (or Mac Rumors) to punish him.
The IMPORTANT part of his question is "Hey, is it a good idea to use this OS as my primary one, or should I stick with Lion." He didn't ask, "hey my buddy's got a copy of this and I want to put it on the intertoobz so EVERYONE can have a copy..."
Now the NEW GUY knows it's not a great idea and why. He also knows MOST of the forum users around here can be helpful.
Yes, he's wrong for pirating, and now he knows. But your attitude about it is MORE wrong. Would YOU like to be treated like you treated him? I'm sure I could find something to drop a hammer on you about... Oh wait, I am!
I do. It's pretty stable, but I wouldn't recommend it. I don't use many third party Apps, so I won't find as many issues as other people.
I just wanted to chime in and say this about developer previews:
There is ALWAYS a good chance that functionality will be broken with an update. Look at iOS developer previews, the first release may work well, but the second release breaks stuff while fixing others.
(You can tell when this happens because the non-devs flood the forums and complain about it while the devs laugh because they read the release notes and knew what to expect
)
So even if you do put ML on a system and it runs well, theres no guarantee it will continue to run well on the next release.
So ya, as others said, wait for the actual release.
There is ALWAYS a good chance that functionality will be broken with an update. Look at iOS developer previews, the first release may work well, but the second release breaks stuff while fixing others.
(You can tell when this happens because the non-devs flood the forums and complain about it while the devs laugh because they read the release notes and knew what to expect
)So even if you do put ML on a system and it runs well, theres no guarantee it will continue to run well on the next release.
So ya, as others said, wait for the actual release.
Pirating for "testing an upcoming version of an OS"? Really?
My friend, I am anti-pirating. If you could check on my computer, you would find not any single pirated software/media. Everything I have on my computer, from music to softwares and operating systems were paid by myself.
So, please, don't say that I'm pirating anything, I just wanted to see with my own eyes what ML is like. But since I trust this community, I won't install ML developer preview on my upcoming iMac.
Don't. At least not blindly.
Every helpful post will be followed by at least 3 of the usual "told you so", "you're a pirate/idiot/fanboy/hater (insert favorite insult here)" ones.
But I guess you've figured that one out by yourself by now...
Sure, it's "piracy", but who really cares and what impact does it make on Apple? We're talking about a beta OS here. Apple doesn't expect to make money off of dev previews. I've never heard of anyone being brought to court for illegally installing a piece of beta software. There's no reason to get on someone's back for "pirating" a dev preview. No matter how you spin it it's not morally, ethically, or financially wrong.
As for actually using Mountain Lion as your main OS: it's stable enough and enough third party applications work on it for it to be usable. You'll likely run into some annoying bugs, as I have during my usage. It's not much different from Lion, besides some small iOS-like additions.
Thanks for understanding my position.
Then, if it feels like piracy (I still don't think it is), I will could say that I would enroll myself in the OS X developer program to be clear of your suspicions.
My real question was if yes or no it is a fully working OS (even if it's in beta) that I could count on everyday. I had my answer and by the majority, I should wait until the public release and that's what I will be doing.
Would you feel comfortable stealing say an apple from a fruit vendor, if you knew that specific apple wouldn't be sold before it had to be thrown out? Or steal and use a car if you knew you could have it back before the owner knew about it?
You can't justify pirating by saying "they wouldn't have made any money either way", it's like saying it's okay to download movies that you wouldn't have seen if you had to pay for them.
The bottom line is, the only thing that counts is whether or not you're allowed to use the software. Anything else is irrelevant. Stealing a five dollar t-shirt from H&M because you can and they wouldn't notice it in any way what so ever is still stealing, the same way using ML if you're not allowed to is pirating.
I never said that using a Mountain Lion dev preview when you aren't authorized to wasn't piracy. It is piracy and I don't deny that. I said that it isn't "morally, ethically, or financially wrong". Stealing a t-shirt made in limited quantities hurts the manufacturer. Stealing fruit from a stand hurts the vendor. Illegally downloading a movie hurts Hollywood (even that is debatable). Installing a piece of beta software when "you're not allowed" doesn't hurt anybody.
Wait, I just clicked on this thread to read opinions on ML DP3 as a main OS. Where did piracy come from? I'm confused.
The OP admitted that his developer friend offered him the beta, and the thread predictably derailed from there.
We clearly have very different views on the moral and ethical aspects of using things you have no right using, and if you use something which you have to pay to use, without paying, I would argue it's "financially wrong" (sic).
You said Apple doesn't expect to make money from the DP's, so it's not "financially wrong" despite the fact that you have to pay to be able to use it. But stealing a five dollar t-shirt from H&M would hurt them? It doesn't add up.
Having actually sold fruit, I can tell you you count on having to throw fruit out. A stolen apple doesn't hurt the vendor. Do you still feel it's wrong to steal an apple?
In what way is watching a movie without paying for it hurting the makers of it when using a software without paying for it isn't?
I agree that much of my experience with Windows is affected by the IT around here that makes load times painfully slow when a "stock" win 7 load would be much better.
I do, however stand by assertion that quick look is inherently superior to loading an entire application just to view a word document or pdf file. OSX might be "better" designed but if you need windows enterprise apps, then that's better for you. YMMV.