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Elnlou

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This update is suppose to be a fix but it seems to be causing more issues than fixing them.

I'm very confused reading this thread on all the problems folks are having after updating.

Should I wait for a fix to the fix!?

I have a 2016 15 inch Mac Book Pro
2.7 GHz Intel Core i7
16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3

I think I will update at the Genius Bar in case I have any immediate issues.

Anyone have a smooth update without issues?
 

fisherking

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if you're basing your decisions on what you read on forums like this (outside of the rare moments when everyone has the same issue)... you're going to get nowhere.

10.14.5 is just around the corner. update, or don't. no one can guarantee anything here.
 

Elnlou

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if you're basing your decisions on what you read on forums like this (outside of the rare moments when everyone has the same issue)... you're going to get nowhere.

10.14.5 is just around the corner. update, or don't. no one can guarantee anything here.

You're right! Thanks!
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Lots of people. Me included.

Good to hear. I guess you come here with issues otherwise you wouldn't be here.
 

fisherking

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a forum like this represents a tiny tiny fraction of macusers. sometimes an issue is pretty universal, easy to discern from the posts on a thread; sometimes it's one person, or a small group, ie people with a common mac, or common app...

there are so many variables. if you update, and all is well, that's great. but if you update and have an issue, this is an excellent place to get help.

again, unless everyone has the same issue, it's a bit of a crapshoot. but most people update their OSes (especially the 'point' updates), and life goes on...

EDIT: as always, always back up before you update or upgrade anything....
 
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chabig

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I guess you come here with issues otherwise you wouldn't be here
Not really. I come to kill time (this is my social media addiction rather than FaceBook, Instagram, SnapChat, etc.) and sometimes try to be helpful.

My only problem with Mojave was after the initial upgrade to Mojave (10.14.1). I ended up solving that by performing a clean install which cleared about 10 years of cruft. But all incremental upgrades since have been unremarkable.
 

Elnlou

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Well, I'm gun shy since I've had issues with actual updating a couple of times, even at the genius bar. I'm not that knowledgeable about trouble shooting these events so it's nice to have the support right there instead of struggling with it.

I do appreciate everyone's input here too. At least I'm not alone.
 

Apple_Glen_UK

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I upgraded to 10.14.4 last week and have had no issues whatsoever. In fact, I have noticed that when it's sleeping things seem to be back to normal, i.e. I'm not losing 5% in just an hour as I was on 10.14.3.
 

MacGizmo

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This update is suppose to be a fix but it seems to be causing more issues than fixing them.
Seems? Why does it seem that way? Are you basing that assumption on what you read here? I hope not.

I'm very confused reading this thread on all the problems folks are having after updating.
This won't be a popular statement here, but the vast majority of the members here are incompetent users who like to think they're "pros." There are a dozen or so users here who are clearly experienced... and I rarely see them having issues—only trying to help all the other "pros" fix theirs.

I think I will update at the Genius Bar in case I have any immediate issues.
Unless you have an appointment, that won't do you any good because they're generally too busy to do anything without an appointment.

Anyone have a smooth update without issues?
. I've not had any. I don't know anyone who has had any.
 
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Elnlou

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Thanks. Do you update with a wired connection or over wifi? I ask because my wifi isn't always reliable. :(

Other than that life is good! :)
[doublepost=1556536922][/doublepost]P.S. I do religiously backup especially before any update.
 

MSastre

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I'm happily running 10.14.4 with no problems on a late 15" 2013 rMBP and a 2010 MP 5,1. When Apple switched to the APFS system with High Sierra, I did "clean installs" and have never had any problems with updating. I also wait for at least the .3 version of any OS before upgrading and test on a cloned drive. Updated over wifi.
 

Elnlou

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All works for me

Came

Thanks!
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I'm happily running 10.14.4 with no problems on a late 15" 2013 rMBP and a 2010 MP 5,1. When Apple switched to the APFS system with High Sierra, I did "clean installs" and have never had any problems with updating. I also wait for at least the .3 version of any OS before upgrading and test on a cloned drive. Updated over wifi.

Thanks!
 

ZZ Bottom

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Sure too late for OP, but I have a 2018 15" MBP with i7 and updated from 10.14.1 to 10.14.4...

I have never experienced such poor performance on a Mac, and I've been using them since 10.5 came out. For anyone reading in, DO NOT update unless you are experiencing an issue that has a documented bug fix in 10.14.4.

10.14.4 has significant bugs itself. Yes I have submitted bug reports to Apple, including the request file attachments. I have several phone recordings of my system hanging amidst do simple tasks like launching System Preferences; which should not freeze the system and take 25 seconds to open.

Cheers.
 

fisherking

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Sure too late for OP, but I have a 2018 15" MBP with i7 and updated from 10.14.1 to 10.14.4...

I have never experienced such poor performance on a Mac, and I've been using them since 10.5 came out. For anyone reading in, DO NOT update unless you are experiencing an issue that has a documented bug fix in 10.14.4.

10.14.4 has significant bugs itself. Yes I have submitted bug reports to Apple, including the request file attachments. I have several phone recordings of my system hanging amidst do simple tasks like launching System Preferences; which should not freeze the system and take 25 seconds to open.

Cheers.

your experience, not everyone's. try running the combo updater: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL408?locale=en_US
 

BigBoy2018

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your experience, not everyone's. try running the combo updater: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL408?locale=en_US

Agreed.

It just amazes me how often people view their unique, individual experiences as de facto evidence of a widespread problem.

If you read these forums even a little, you’d see how some people swear by the latest os version and others claim it’s crap.

Your logical fallacy is anecdotal.
 

MacPeasant123

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I have a non-retina 2012 MacBook Pro upgraded to 250GB SSD and 8GM RAM, and a 500GB hard drive in the DVD slot.

I finally upgraded from Sierra 10.12.6 to Mojave 10.14.4 two days ago from the Mac App Store (not a clean install) and it went fine.

I've had no problems so far.
 

BigBoy2018

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I have a non-retina 2012 MacBook Pro upgraded to 250GB SSD and 8GM RAM, and a 500GB hard drive in the DVD slot.

I finally upgraded from Sierra 10.12.6 to Mojave 10.14.4 two days ago from the Mac App Store (not a clean install) and it went fine.

I've had no problems so far.

Same here on all 3 of my Macs, including my 2012 15 inch non-retina macbook pro.
 

Honza1

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It's kind of getting too late for 12.4.4 - why not to wait for 12.4.5 by now? ;-)
 

Elnlou

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I updated on Friday (5/3) at the genius desk. Before leaving I checked out Apple Mail, my Excel worksheets, etc.
Everything worked fine while at the Apple store. I get home and the dreaded Apple Gmail Authentification after updating to Mojave 10.14.4 issue reared its ugly head.

Did some research. There are supposedly lots of different workarounds out there that are too complicated for me and my simple tech skills. Then I came upon info shedding light that it is a Google security issue that clashes with Apple. By allowing less secure apps access to your Google account, presto gmail reappeared instantly, in working condition in my Apple mail. Here’s the link: https://www.chriswrites.com/how-to-fix-gmail-authentication-issues/

I’m not totally comfortable with this solution but for now I’ll go with it while hoping for a fix in Mojave 10.4.5 on this issue but not holding my breath.
 

zarathu

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I upgraded a MBP late 2013 2.6 ghz 256 gb from Sierra to Mojave without issue. I upgraded my oracle virtual box so I can continue to run XP for the one little app that will never run in apple. And my 2009 copy of Toast 9 Titanium STILL WORKS. NO ISSUES.
 

zarathu

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I HAVE a late 2013, 2.6 ghz i7, 256 gb SSD, 16 gb, Iris PRO 1436 MB, that was running Sierra and I upgraded to Mojave 10.14.4. without issue 3 days ago.

I am also afflicted with the dreaded damaged AppleThunderboltNIH.kext crash issue, which I have fixed with a python script NoCrashMBP, that does about 20K idlewakeups a CPU second. This tends to make everything faster since the MBP is always ready to go, as about 3% of the CPU is running all the time continuously.
 

Elnlou

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Sounds great but I'm not tech savvy enough to make that happen.
 
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