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Discussion in 'OS X El Capitan (10.11)' started by Pontoon, Mar 14, 2016.
My new iMac is running on Yosemite - would you guys recommend upgrading to El Capitan?
All I can say is that my very old lady iMac is happily loaded up with ElCapitan. I found some misfiring on first download, but took courage and re-loaded and it went in like silk. The bugs disappeared and she now starts up like a two year old.
El Capitan is much better than Yosemite. Faster, improved UI, better built in app features.
Read the reviews on the App Store. This version of OS X has a lot of horrible reviews.
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Hola, Senor Cuete. If I had posted on the strength of my first download of ElCapitan I would share your doubts. But once I got up the courage to uninstall and are-install, it worked as I had hoped. My fear was that I might lose all kinds of files and apps, but in fact it all remaind rock steady. Hope this helps.
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El Capitan is really a fine tuned version of Yosemite. A Yosemite that they were able to put an extra year or work into. Much like how Snow Leopard was to Leopard.
Install it! My 2009 Macbook pro runs faster on it than it did on Yosemite.
Every version of every operating system gets horrible reviews. People with complaints post, hardly anyone else does. It's human nature.
I had no choice, I was used to Leopard, and very happy.
To use Pro Tools 12 I had to upgrade to El Capitan, I really cant get used to it, but maybe in time....
I still use my older laptop for browsing, emails etc, with good old Leopard OS!
I guess a new OS just needs patience when you are so used to a particular version.
The only OS I have heard consistant bad reports about is Mavericks.
I am very slowly getting the hang if El Capitan.
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I have an external USB3 test SSD having two partitions with virgin installs of Yosemite and El Capitan on each partition. I externally boot my i7 2.0 GHz Air to test each OS. Frankly, I cannot see a significant difference between the two OSs, even though El Capitan is supposedly a faster and an improved version of the Yosemite.
If you are happy with the Yosemite, you can stay with it. However, if you want to upgrade to EL Capitan, you may do so with no problem whatsoever.
I have a MBP 2012, i7, 2.3G, 16GB. I was happy running 10.8.5 but I had to use TurboTax and that requires 10.9 or later. **Be sure you know your router SSID and password if you are wireless.**
These are steps I took:
1. I downloaded 10.11.3 and created a bootable installation drive on an USB 8G flash drive using DiskMaker X5. (I had to also update a MBAir and this saved time of another download).
2. I updated all the programs I could.
3. Repaired the permissions, then ran Time Machine and also Carbon Copy Cloner (just in case).
4. Clicked the install for ElCap.
It took 40 minutes with a a few automatic restarts. At first it was a little slow but the more I used it, the faster it became. For the next 2 hours, I opened every program and verified it was working, made sure it could access my printer, and EVERYTHING worked fine. It was one of the smoothest upgrades I have ever done. I have been using macs since 1986 back in the days of system 7.
Using the USB drive for installation on the MBAir, it only took 30 mins and because my wife doesn't use a lot of other programs she was up and running in less than 1 hour. We both have noticed they run faster. I have always said "if it's not broke, don't fix it". But in this case it is well worth the trouble. Be sure to back up everything. Do it, you won't be sorry.
Do you need a phd to figure why? It's an OS. After the first release, every single review is just to complain about something. Always.
When something is working right, no one complains/reviews. 1+1. El Cap is the best desktop OS ever released. Just back up using TM and update.
For me, El Capitan is Far more stable than Yosemite, even after three times of kernel panics.
Yosemite forced me to reinstall system three times, and notes app never started.
I cannot judge the very early beta of El Capitan, but current 10.11.4 beta is fairly stable. I can even keep it on over 30 days without even logging out account. Windows counterpart cannot reach such level that easily. This is just amazing.
So, unless you have certain software which does not support El Capitan, I recommend you to upgrade.
That depends on A: is all software compatible B: do all external devices work without problems C: has the OS any bugs that are too troublesome.
If answer to even one point is yes its a bad idea to update.
As for El Capitan being the best OS ever released I have to disagree. Snow Leopard is more reliable and faster especially on oldest Macs supported by El Capitan. Not to mention that it contains no pointless features inspired by iOS. I am not saying that El Capitan has no potential, I just don't think it is nowhere as good as Snow Leopard is.
That's not true. It was never true.
If you are talking about 10.6.8 vs 10.11.0, maybe it was better on some very particular instances, otherwise it was nothing more than an older, worse OS. yes, you rambling about "pointless features" inspired by iOS already said everything that needs to be said about you and your position.
If you weren't so biased and if you were even if a bit knowledgable about the subject, you could go on and search for the SL threads upon release, and the next few updates. Adjectives used by a much higher % of users than people complaining about modern OSes were: "piece of ****"; "pathetic attempt to mine clueless users for money. No features."; "unstable piece of crap. I will never update above 10.5. Apple died after 10.4.11".
Pontoon – is it "worth it"? What possible costs are you worried about?
How about folks on mavericks?
It is worth upgrading? Or will the coming release be so called the most stable version?
El Capitan is much better than Yosemite. I reverted back to Mavericks after a 6 month battle with that abysmal version of OSX.
With that said, I wish I was still on Mavericks. It looked so much better, and also ran so much better most of the time. Not to mention my Mac ran about 15 degrees cooler on Mavericks also.
Finally. Someone without that ignorant biased crap about Snow Leopard.
For a period of time last month, after some digging and searches for help, I did revert back to Mavericks. After about 2 weeks or so though I just upgraded. Can't remember the justification as to why I did it though.. I think it had to do with my iPhone and iTunes.
El Capitan isn't bad, but it I have more fond memories of older releases like Leopard and Snow Leopard. I was so in love with Leopard when it came out, and I was in the lucky boat as I had ZERO issues with it.
This reminds me of Amazon. Complaining of bad packaging, packaging too big for the product, bad reviews for delays on the courier service, bad reviews because they ordered the wrong size or specifications. I'm ending up ignoring a lot of reviews most of the time unless they are really endlessly bad.
I find it so unreal how most things today get one star reviews from something that is so stupid or careless from the owner.
Mavericks and such feels so dated now. I used to love and swear by Mavericks until 3 weeks ago. The UI feels so sharp and clear including the icons for El Capitan.
My initial shocker was adjusting to the brighter UI that I've now become accustomed to it.
I'd probably find it hard if I was to go back to Leopard and Snow Leopard. All the huge gradients and buttons. Feels like 2007.
El Capitan with an SSD on my 1,1 MacPro is really fast and smooth. I often wonder how would Mavericks behave on the same disk (I have it on a separate partition and it's noticeably slower because it's not an SSD). But I have all my audio software/pugins/drivers up-to-date with El Capitan, I like the fact that my iPhone and my Mac share the same UI elements, etc. While I do like Mavericks' look, there are far too many factors to justify a downgrade. El Capitan has been working flawlessly for me since day one. Besides, it's 2016 now, Mavericks days are numbered (security, safari updates...) - I prefer to stay current than being 3 years behind. The flat UI argument is now irrelevant, we've all come accustomed to it.
Mavericks was faster on bootup with a Samsung 840 SSD. I had I think one disc spin and it was on the desktop which must have been one second. However I always had long shutdowns with Mountain Lion and Mavericks even though both were clean installs. Lion never suffered shutdown problems.
El Capitan takes 4 - 6 seconds to boot to the desktop with a Samsung 850 Pro SSD. The progress bar seems to take a while but I do not suffer shutdown delays. Again, that is with a clean install.
Youtube was also annoying with Safari on Mavericks not having anything above 720p. Yes there are extensions but I'd rather have the browser deal with it.