Is jailbreaking perminate?

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by zyzzogeton, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. zyzzogeton macrumors member

    Oct 23, 2008
    K, so I was hacken my iphone and crap and then I was liek, "Ima gonna restore my phone for now cause my jailbroken crap is screwed up." So I restored and I was legit again...

    3 or 4 weeks later I try to text my friend and all the sudden I get the "error sending message" error thing. And from then on I couldn't send text messages. I could go into more depth but I don't feel like it.

    So naturally I go to the apple store and get it checked out and the person and they were all confused and crap. So while we are sitting there wait for the guy to just say "ok lets go get a replacement" (it took him like an hour or so to find out that my problem was unifiable) my dad asks me if I have ever hacked my phone before. I was liek "ya of course." And about that entire time he is sitting there explaining to me that jailbreaking causes perminate damage and then he confused it with unlocking and some other weird conversation points came up.

    Anyways, he apparently thought that modifying the firmware (through quickpwn) was a perminate thing that could not be reversed. I think he is still thinking of unlocking which is completely different. Either that or he thinks I'm modifying the bootloader.

    So can you clairify the above?
  2. RandomKamikaze macrumors 6502a


    Jan 8, 2009
    Jailbreaking isn't permanent because you can just re-flash it with a stock Apple firmware.

    Unlocking isn't permanent if you use yellowsn0w. If you get a Network Unlocking Code from your carrier and unlock that way then that might be permanent, but am not sure.
  3. Gix1k macrumors 68030


    Jun 16, 2008
  4. upaymeifixit macrumors 6502a


    Feb 13, 2009
    Nice grammar.

    No, it's not permeant, but it does permanently void your warranty (But that is virtually un-detectable by Apple, unless you dad tells them). If you flash it again, it goes back to normal (with legit firmware). The only thing that you can really make permanent is the hardware. Tamper with that, and iTunes isn't going to be able to bail you out of that one.

    But you didn't permanently do anything. So my solutions:
    Have you tried a restore? It may fix the problem.
    Try Jailbreaking then un-Jailbreaking again.
    Take it to a different Apple store (or different person), and tell your dad to stay in the car! LOL

    If all fails, showing the Apple staff won't convince them, So... Your SCREWED!
  5. ppc750fx macrumors 65816

    Aug 20, 2008
    Just to clarify:

    If you jailbreak, Apple may refuse to service the device. If you do a DFU restore to stock firmware, however, there is no way that the service techs can detect that you were previously running a jailbroken iPhone -- at least not without pulling the chips off the board and doing a bit-level copy of all the data for forensic analysis (and even then, I'm not sure if they'd find any evidence.)

    Here's the golden rule of jailbreaking, etc: If ever you screw up, or if you need to get your phone serviced, a DFU restore is the One True Answer (TM). :D
  6. eyefoniac macrumors 6502


    Nov 21, 2008
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Nope you are fine! I have jailbroken my phone and needed to take it in for service. I restored it with iTunes and took it it, they replaced it no problem. The genius even requested to run a diagnostic on my phone before replacement and found nothing. He replaced it no question.

    good luck with your endeavor
  7. Four20 macrumors 6502a


    Sep 22, 2007
    when in doubt, you can always restore via itunes
  8. zyzzogeton thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 23, 2008
    Thx guiz, btw I don't need help getting a new phone, already did that I just wanted to safely go back to jailbroken because its way better :D

    Thanks again!!!
  9. SFStateStudent macrumors 604


    Aug 28, 2007
    San Francisco California, USA
    OP, just make sure that you restore to original settings before you get it back to the Apple Store for a checkup...
  10. d wade macrumors 65816

    d wade

    Jun 27, 2006
    Boca Raton, FL
    you stole the words out of my mouth.
  11. upaymeifixit macrumors 6502a


    Feb 13, 2009
    I will second that. Again
  12. Let's Sekuhara! macrumors 6502

    Let's Sekuhara!

    Jun 30, 2008
  13. tnisatard macrumors 6502

    Apr 1, 2008
    how do i restore via itunes?

    im using the latest version of yellowsn0w and everytime i click restore, it would tell me to download the latest firmware, but i get scared because if i update i lose my ability to use yellowsn0w
  14. Knowlege Bomb macrumors 603

    Knowlege Bomb

    Feb 14, 2008
    Madison, WI
    Nice grammar indeed.


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