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I'm considering buying mac mini. Do you think we can expect the mini m5 pro this fall, or at the beginning of the 2026?
 
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Very unlikely.

Upgrade cycles …

2012
2014
2018
2020

So there is at least 2 years in between.
Mmmhmmm...


intel is irrelevant

apple silicon Mac mini updates:

m1 November 2020
m2 January 2023
m4 October 2024
Valid point, but even if...

Nov. 10, 2020 - Jan. 17, 2023 = 798 days
Jan. 17. 2023 - Oct. 29, 2024 = 651 days

* These durations are also noted in the earlier linked Buyer’s Guide

Average = 724.5 days

And if we go from November 1, 2020 to January 1, 2023 (i.e., 791 days) and then November 1, 2024 (i.e., 670 days), the average is 730.5 days, two years on the dot.

I do want to reaffirm this isn’t meant to be snarky. I’m just pointing out that, at least thus far, the average is staying quite close.
 
M6 Mini has my name on it. I think the timing will work out for when my 2018 Mini running Sequoia gets dumped off of receiving security updates.
 
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I'm considering buying mac mini. Do you think we can expect the mini m5 pro this fall, or at the beginning of the 2026?

Hmmm.....with the upcoming AI / Siri, and changes to the Apple *OS across the board, do not be surprised to see a leap to M5 end of this year or beginning of next year. The M4 is a springboard, the M5 will be the base line requirement for the near future.
 
"The M4 is a springboard, the M5 will be the base line requirement for the near future."

I don't know of anything to support this opinion, what are you basing this belief on?

And Apple updates are designed to make money. They have zero incentive to update again so quickly, and millions of dollars of incentive - as well as past history - to suggest no update soon.
 
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I'm debating this myself, as I'm hoping to get a base model Mini, and I'm like do I get one now, or wait and hope for the future. The buyer's guide is quite clear with a buy now recommendation
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I'm debating this myself, as I'm hoping to get a base model Mini, and I'm like do I get one now, or wait and hope for the future. The buyer's guide is quite clear with a buy now recommendation
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Do you plan to upgrade the internal SSD yourself or get an external boot drive and install the OS there?
Why well-known brands such as OWC don't release internal SSD upgrade for the M4 Mini?
 
Do you plan to upgrade the internal SSD yourself or get an external boot drive and install the OS there?
Why well-known brands such as OWC don't release internal SSD upgrade for the M4 Mini?
No, I’ll not be looking to upgrade. I’ll use iCloud storage for most of my data needs. I also have a TB of one drive storage
 
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Even if there is an M5 that comes out soon I won't get it. I'll likely skip over the M5 generation entirely considering I am running an M4 currently.
 
I'm debating this myself, as I'm hoping to get a base model Mini, and I'm like do I get one now, or wait and hope for the future. The buyer's guide is quite clear with a buy now recommendation
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It would be more clear if the Mar 2020 update had an explanation. For the record, they bumped the base storage spec, but it’s still the 2018 model. Take that “update” out and the days between releases goes to 878 or about every 2.4 years. The 2018 update was way overdue, so that should be taken into account.

That said, I’m not sure things haven’t changed and we’re going to see more regular releases. Towards the end of the intel era, updates were scarce as CPU innovation sort of stalled.
 
It would be more clear if the Mar 2020 update had an explanation. For the record, they bumped the base storage spec, but it’s still the 2018 model. Take that “update” out and the days between releases goes to 878 or about every 2.4 years. The 2018 update was way overdue, so that should be taken into account.

That said, I’m not sure things haven’t changed and we’re going to see more regular releases. Towards the end of the intel era, updates were scarce as CPU innovation sort of stalled.
It looks like Apple just rushed out a final Intel release knowing it had a decent M1 offering in the wings rather than call it a day with the ageing 2018 Mini. Whether we now move to a 24 month upgrade cycle depends on what the M5 is going to be like. If it is a huge leap forward, then sales of the M4 Mini might plummet as people wait for the M6 Mini. Apple may or may not care about that as phones are still paramount.
 
To the OP's question, looks less and less likely. But (of any size), stranger things have happened?

Forgive me for being curious and way off-topic, but I tried this with their username just to see if there was possibly some hidden meaning. Unless they're a doomster or kotower (different spelling for kowtower?) then the meaning shall remain obscure, which is perfectly cromulent if not commendable.
 
Hmmm.....with the upcoming AI / Siri, and changes to the Apple *OS across the board, do not be surprised to see a leap to M5 end of this year or beginning of next year. The M4 is a springboard, the M5 will be the base line requirement for the near future.

Apple isn't going to suddenly switch the baseline from the M1, at least not in the foreseeable future. Even Metal 4 will run on M1, so Apple is clearly focused on supporting all M-series SoCs at this time.
 
M5 desktop ? Very unlikely.

put yourself into the position of apple. Do you think the M5 will sell in numbers enough ?
I´d say it´s unlikely.


To me the question is: will the M6 be a "good year", or the M7 ? I tend to think the M7 will be the one
 
M5 desktop ? Very unlikely.

put yourself into the position of apple. Do you think the M5 will sell in numbers enough ?
I´d say it´s unlikely.


To me the question is: will the M6 be a "good year", or the M7 ? I tend to think the M7 will be the one
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic/ironic but assuming you’re not, the M6 generation is supposed to be on a die shrink to N2 which is typically the time that chips have their largest performance gains. M7 will either use the same process or the N2P or N2X modification, neither of which is supposed to be anywhere near the jump of going to N2. That said, the proof of the pudding…

Regardless, I’m upgrading on M5 generation. But whether the Mac mini will get regular updates remains to be seen. I would guess that the mini and the iMac will now be on a per generation upgrade path, assuming no major changes happen on the motherboards, etc.
 
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The chart below provides a summary of the identifiers, and the upcoming Mac models that they may correspond with, according to AppleInsider.

IdentifierPotential Model
J873sMac mini (M5 Pro)

Quite possible now
 
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As @appleArtic shared above, it looks like only the Pro M5 chip will come to the Mini this year.

A little bit of a drag, because that will be a machine that starts at $1400.

The base model Mini M4 is just incredibly unmatched value.
It would have been great to be getting an M5 option at the current MSRPs.
 
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