Is Mac OS going away?

[Der Keyser]

Hi

Is Mac OS on a path to the history books in favor of iOS on Mac Hardware? I believe so...
https://wolffmadsen.dk/articles/i-believe-mac-os-is-heading-for-the-history-books/

I really think Apple should consider doing a roadmap of sorts to prevent all this speculation and guesswork about their products. Or maybe that’s some of the magic to Apple products - keeps people talking about them?

 

[Fried Chicken]

**** this.

 

[StellarVixen]

I do not know. Apple has been several times very clear and said "no, iOS and Mac OS will stay separate".

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...s-and-ios-i-dont-think-thats-what-users-want/

Also, WWDC 2018, Craig Federighi gives a loud and clear NO!


If that is not enough for you, then nothing is.

But some people love to think of anything they can come up with, so...let them imagine whatever they want.

 

[maflynn]

I don't think its going to go away, but I do think apple is moving to make macOS more and more ios like. I think we'll be seeing macOS being more locked down and I can see them making it harder for developers if they choose not to use the mac app store.

 

[HDFan]

Apple has been several times very clear and said "no, iOS and Mac OS will stay separate".

Yep. But ....

News is now available on MacOS. I think we will be seeing more cross platform apps such as this when it makes sense. Hopefully when they roll out Texture (as part of News?) we will get a MacOS Texture equivalent as well. I used to read it via Windows 10 virtualization (the only OS Texture desktop supported) and after Apple bought Texture they killed the app.

A more intriguing question is whether they will transition from Intel. They are killing the phone and tablet competition performance wise due to their custom chips, giving them a marketing edge in that area. Will they do the same for desktops?

 

[Der Keyser]

Yep. But ....

News is now available on MacOS. I think we will be seeing more cross platform apps such as this when it makes sense. Hopefully when they roll out Texture (as part of News?) we will get a MacOS Texture equivalent as well. I used to read it via Windows 10 virtualization (the only OS Texture desktop supported) and after Apple bought Texture they killed the app.

A more intriguing question is whether they will transition from Intel. They are killing the phone and tablet competition performance wise due to their custom chips, giving them a marketing edge in that area. Will they do the same for desktops?

I think you should read the article referenced in the intial post. There are some VERY heavy arguments to suggest you either stay with Intel or transition to iOS on Mac devices. The MacOS on ARM solution just makes no business sense at all for Apple.

 

[chabig]

I read the article (really just a long list of unsupported bullet points) and found it entirely unconvincing.

 

[revmacian]

Hi

Is Mac OS on a path to the history books in favor of iOS on Mac Hardware? I believe so...
https://wolffmadsen.dk/articles/i-believe-mac-os-is-heading-for-the-history-books/

I really think Apple should consider doing a roadmap of sorts to prevent all this speculation and guesswork about their products. Or maybe that’s some of the magic to Apple products - keeps people talking about them?

The article you have linked is actually an opinion piece based on the writer's beliefs and expectations. Nothing to see there. I'll be concerned when/if macOS goes the way of the Dodo.

 

[Der Keyser]

The article you have linked is actually an opinion piece based on the writer's beliefs and expectations. Nothing to see there. I'll be concerned when/if macOS goes the way of the Dodo.

Yes, it’s an opinion piece, but with the logical and undeniable arguments about apples situation up until today, I have to agree there is NO business sense in not going the “opinion parts” way. It’s not that Apple will fail if they don’t - they just at best prolong a “standstill” Mac marked, but in all probability takes a big unnecessary risk with no apparant upside

 

[revmacian]

Yes, it’s an opinion piece, but with the logical and undeniable arguments about apples situation up until today, I have to agree there is NO business sense in not going the “opinion parts” way. It’s not that Apple will fail if they don’t - they just at best prolong a “standstill” Mac marked, but in all probability takes a big unnecessary risk with no apparant upside

We could guess all day and still be wrong. Whereas, if we wait and see what is released.. then we have the facts. Speculation is a waste of resources.. and does little to change reality.

 

[chabig]

I find none of his bullet points compelling. Young people expect touch screens? Apple can’t manage two platforms at the same time? Macs haven’t won Windows users over? Gaming isn’t big on macOS?

About the only thing that’s certain is that Apple is doomed.

 

[HDFan]

I think you should read the article referenced in the intial post.

I did. Agree with the others. Lots of nonsense.

undeniable arguments

Actually very deniable.

 

[Der Keyser]

We could guess all day and still be wrong. Whereas, if we wait and see what is released.. then we have the facts. Speculation is a waste of resources.. and does little to change reality.

True. Food for thought
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I find none of his bullet points compelling. Young people expect touch screens? Apple can’t manage two platforms at the same time? Macs haven’t won Windows users over? Gaming isn’t big on macOS?

About the only thing that’s certain is that Apple is doomed.

Whatever - No point in arguing about it when real world salesnumbers, real world market statistics, current game platform developments and simple business logic is just fake news to you if you believe something else

 

[Fishrrman]

Mac OS may not be "going away", at least not yet.
But... it's definitely "changing"...

 

[skaertus]

Hi

Is Mac OS on a path to the history books in favor of iOS on Mac Hardware? I believe so...
https://wolffmadsen.dk/articles/i-believe-mac-os-is-heading-for-the-history-books/

I really think Apple should consider doing a roadmap of sorts to prevent all this speculation and guesswork about their products. Or maybe that’s some of the magic to Apple products - keeps people talking about them?

Well, it is hard to say for sure.

From a business perspective, it seems to make sense, for several reasons. It is not easy nor cheap to keep two operating systems. But more than that, it is not easy to compel developers to write apps for two so different operating systems.

Macs have a small market share, and this market share will not increase with the recent price hikes. If the market share is low, developers have less incentives to keep developing for macOS instead of Windows or even iOS. Apple will not be able to standardize any of its apps if it remains with macOS.

It also does not help the fact that the iPad now is nearly as powerful and as expensive as a Mac laptop, and it has a keyboard and a pointing device (the Pencil). Which means that these two different products may be competing. One of them may end up being discontinued at some point.

It is weird that Apple keeps two different platforms, and it is quite possible that one of them prevails in the end. But it is not likely to happen soon. Apple has just released an all-new 13-inch MacBook Air (which is a larger version of the 12-inch MacBook, but still, a new design), and an all-new Mac Mini. So, Macs are going nowhere right now. And Apple is not replacing macOS with iOS in these laptops. So, I think there is a chance that macOS gets replaced, but I think it will stick here for a while, which may be some five or ten years or so.