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Is macOS 15 a disaster?

JuicyGoomba said:
It's weird that you're claiming it's a rogue Windows dev team causing it, yet if you'd used any modern version of Windows you'd notice that despite some over-simplification of older features (that are gradually being added back in, thankfully) it's actually the exact opposite of your prejudice.

MacOS has been on a downward trend for the last decade. Meanwhile Windows and Linux have crept up and moved ahead in most aspects, especially when it comes to usability and features.

MacOS meanwhile has been adding useless features each year that no one asked for or cared for, with the end goal of making it as close to iOS as possible. Afterall iOS is home to hundreds of millions of people who only use iPhones because they're simple and easy to use. Therefore in order to maximise profit, MacOS should be the same.

Just like iOS, they have in turn neglected to fix long standing bugs and issues, and completely ignored adding much requested ease of use and quality of life features. Heck they recently, and finally, added window snapping to MacOS. Only it doesn't work, and is particularly buggy with Apple's own apps which serves as proof that they just didn't bother or care to test the feature. You're better off turning it off and continuing to use a third party app.

For years now they've also tied the animation when switching desktop spaces to the MBP's 120hz refresh rate. It literally takes DOUBLE the time to complete the animation unless you revert back to 60hz. It's a simple bug that's been around for an age, that many many people have reported. Guess Apple were too busy making VisionOS.

I use a MBP 16" for work but we regularly have to fix/setup W11 devices and Chromebooks. In 2024/25, the Chromebook comes out on top for both simplicity and usability. Everything you need to work efficiently is built into the OS. You lack creative professional apps, but everything else is there. Windows 11 is a close second but will always fall short due to the legacy systems and code that it refuses to let go of. MacOS is a very distant 3rd and if we deployed Linux devices here, it would easily be a distant 4th.

My biggest pet peeve is that we use multiple monitors, and I always have the dock hidden. You CANNOT easily bring the dock up on the external monitors when using a 3rd party mouse. It works perfectly to unhide the dock with the built in trackpad and using a colleagues Magic Mouse, but a peripheral other than Apple's own? No, you need to keep your cursor at the bottom of the screen and hope that it'll take less than 5 seconds to show the dock.

The long term future of Apple is going to be a rough one for anyone who's been with them since the early days. They don't care about you, they simply want to sell more subscriptions to teenagers and the elderly. They are a short term vision company that spoon feeds shareholders every year. The only actual hope you have is if somehow the replacement for Tim Apple doesn't care about counting beans.
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I don't think Apple is interested in the elderly. When I bought my series 9 watch I was 68. I had problems with some of the health features. I spoke to several people at Apple, and the last guy said, "We don't design our products to work with people like you."
 
JUMA55 said:
I don't think Apple is interested in the elderly. When I bought my series 9 watch I was 68. I had problems with some of the health features. I spoke to several people at Apple, and the last guy said, "We don't design our products to work with people like you."
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That is so rude of the Apple Store employee.
 
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kagharaht said:
That is so rude of the Apple Store employee.
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Actually it was the AppleCare folks on the phone. But I haven't had great luck with store people either.

Everyone claims Apple service is the best. This has not been my experience going back to 2008. And the worst ever was with this iMac 5K I bought in 2019. Lots of problems: zero help.
 
JUMA55 said:
I don't think Apple is interested in the elderly. When I bought my series 9 watch I was 68. I had problems with some of the health features. I spoke to several people at Apple, and the last guy said, "We don't design our products to work with people like you."
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I’m flabbergasted that an Apple employee would say something like that. Besides it being very rude, the store employees have nothing to do with product design.
 
JUMA55 said:
Actually it was the AppleCare folks on the phone. But I haven't had great luck with store people either.

Everyone claims Apple service is the best. This has not been my experience going back to 2008. And the worst ever was with this iMac 5K I bought in 2019. Lots of problems: zero help.
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honestly, i've been using macs since late-90s, and have (when i needed it) always gotten great support from apple (in-store and on the phone). sorry your own experiences were not so good... 🤔
 
JUMA55 said:
Actually it was the AppleCare folks on the phone. But I haven't had great luck with store people either.

Everyone claims Apple service is the best. This has not been my experience going back to 2008. And the worst ever was with this iMac 5K I bought in 2019. Lots of problems: zero help.
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I'm so old now. Haha... I miss the guys from ComputerWare back in the Bay Area. Back when it's one one one with the Support and Sales Rep. Walk in, we mess with the Mac 512K, making system 3 disk copies. I don't have a clear memory anymore on what we did to increase the RAM from 2mb to 4mb on the board. I think we cut something on the board? Wish I remember. Anyway, yeah service in the old days...personal, no hassle since Apple wasn't a big humongous company like today.
 
fisherking said:
honestly, i've been using macs since late-90s, and have (when i needed it) always gotten great support from apple (in-store and on the phone). sorry your own experiences were not so good... 🤔
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I don't know how much money we've spent on Apple gear in the last 17 years, but it's a lot, somewhere north of $25K just in the last five years. At least every other purchase--excepting minor stuff like cables, earbuds, etc.--has needed some sort of service or replacement, and with that the quality of the people I've dealt with has gone down. Most of them very, very nice but clueless as to how to fix the problem.

Case in point, I have current Apple TV 4K that's slightly over two years old. After about two hours of use, the audio starts stuttering. This happens with Apple TV+, YouTube TV, Disney, etc. One might think it's the Internet. The only problem is it happens with shows purchased from iTunes and downloaded to a Mac mini. The only way to fix the problem is to back out to the main menu, close the app and restart the unit. Apple has replaced the Apple TV at least once, yet the problem continues. And I have similar problem on another Apple TV 4K in a different room.

Bottom line is Apple is probably the best out there, but to sound like the old f@rt that I am, it was better a decade or so ago.
 
JUMA55 said:
I don't know how much money we've spent on Apple gear in the last 17 years, but it's a lot, somewhere north of $25K just in the last five years. At least every other purchase--excepting minor stuff like cables, earbuds, etc.--has needed some sort of service or replacement, and with that the quality of the people I've dealt with has gone down. Most of them very, very nice but clueless as to how to fix the problem.

Case in point, I have current Apple TV 4K that's slightly over two years old. After about two hours of use, the audio starts stuttering. This happens with Apple TV+, YouTube TV, Disney, etc. One might think it's the Internet. The only problem is it happens with shows purchased from iTunes and downloaded to a Mac mini. The only way to fix the problem is to back out to the main menu, close the app and restart the unit. Apple has replaced the Apple TV at least once, yet the problem continues. And I have similar problem on another Apple TV 4K in a different room.

Bottom line is Apple is probably the best out there, but to sound like the old f@rt that I am, it was better a decade or so ago.
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your experience is noted. and we all have stories (good and bad) about apple support. mine, as mentioned, are pretty good.

anyway, let's just remember that no one of us speaks for all of us.
 
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cappo3 said:
This is the first time I read of anyone thinking Sonoma (and therefore Sequoia) has been a improvement over Monterey.
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Monterey is good. I've a m1pro still running monerey, very stable. while it's bit old for some new version of apps.
 
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I have never had any major issues with any of the later releases, and they have all been done using OCLP except for Monterey on my 2015 MacBook Pro and on my 2017 MacBook Air and work perfect. UNLIKE WINDOWS 11 THAT BREAKS SOMETHING EVERY TIME IT DO AN UPDATE.
 
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Shrug, I have nothing to compare it to.
Lifelong PC user here, migrating to new 64GB/1TB M4 Mac Mini Pro, so I have only experienced 15.whatever it came with, plus the latest upgrades.
Works good for me...
 
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I’ve found Sequoia to be exceptionally stable. I seem to recall Monterey was good, Ventura I had some issues, fewer with Sonoma, and fewer/none with Sequoia. Now, it could be that whatever workarounds I did still work, but I don’t see any new broken stuff in Sequoia.

I have found that as I’ve upgraded Macs, there are fewer problems… Apple focuses MacOS development with their newest products, so that makes sense. My new Macs are a M4 MBA and a M2 Pro Mini.

I run a crap ton of utilities in the background. I don’t turn off SIP though. Biggest issue I have is the native drivers for my aging Lexmark printer (C792de fully optioned), which was released in 2010, stopped working a couple of versions ago, and I have to rely on AirPrint now, which is generally ok but not the best.

I have a “new to me” printer in the box, but haven’t had time to set it up. It’s a Lexmark CS943de… not a fan of Lexmark, but they happen to have a feature set I require that I can’t find in other makes of commercial laser printers like HP and Xerox — the latter is interesting since the CS943de is a rebadged Xerox.

If MacOS doesn’t play well with it, will put it back up for sale on eBay tho. I’ve learned a long time ago it’s best not to fight MacOS. Arcane workarounds inevitably will break at some point
 
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jdw13 said:
Only issue I have is the failure of nightly Time Machine backups when the screen is locked as being followed.
Time Machine Error
Reporting to Apple seems to fall on dead ears. Very annoying but not a deal-breaker for me.
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That, Airdrop and Finder Tags on the Sidebar not showing the files tagged anymore.
 
after using windows 10 for several months Microsoft seemed to play better with others
meaning those second and third party programs and equipment.

Now I'm having trouble connecting a Setachi keyboard to a Mac mini m1 SeqOS
that all of the sudden won't work just 30 minutes ago.

in 2024, Microsoft never bothered me a much as  as the tables are turned.
 
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